66 | Emily Kyle, Nutritionist

“You know, we trust every adult in America to use alcohol. There’s no reason we can’t trust every adult in America to use cannabis, which is significantly safer, significantly, more beneficial.”

— Emily Kyle 

More than a drug, cannabis is a nutritional food, and it deserves to be a part of our daily diet, says nutritionist and cookbook author Emily Kyle. She shares tasty recipes, and a sensible and sustainable approach to integrating cannabis as part of your daily nutrition, including how to:

  • Mitigate the psychoactive effects of cannabis
  • Use raw cannabis in smoothies
  • Make canna-butter, a versatile ingredient you can use in many dishes
  • Grow your own so you always have a low-cost supply of cannabis for cooking
  • Test different approaches and recipes to find out what works for you

Visit Emily’s website

Transcript of Podcast Episode with Emily Kyle

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Kannaboom (00:00): Is cannabis a food? Yes, says Emily Kyle. More than that, it's actually an immune-boosting anti-inflammatory superfood that can help you live better — whether you want to get high or not. A nutritionist who has authored multiple cookbooks, Emily is also a cannabis enthusiast, and she specializes in showing people how to integrate CBD and cannabis into tasty recipes, from smoothies to breakfast, lunch, and dinner entrees. In this episode, Emily shares her expertise on how to get your daily dose of this emerging super-food. Whether you're a subscriber or a first-time listener, please stop by and see us at Kannaboom with a k dot com. We focus on how cannabinoids and CBD can help you achieve better wellness and importantly, how to find CBD that's trusted and reliable. If you like the podcast, please subscribe and please leave a review so other people can find the show. Thanks to our producer, Danny in Milwaukee. And here's my interview with Emily Carr. Cannabis is booming and Kannaboom is on it. Welcome to the Kannaboom podcast, where we interview experts on the changing story of humans, hemp and health. From San Diego, here's your host, Tom Stacey. Hey, it's Tom. We're back with the Kannaboom podcast today. I'm really excited to have Emily Kyle on the show. She is a nutritionist who really integrates cannabis into her practice and is also sort of a coach and educator with an emphasis on cannabis for women. Hi, Emily, how are you doing?

Emily Kyle (01:19): Hi, thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Kannaboom (01:22): Did I get that description right? Is that pretty much what you do?

Emily Kyle (01:26): It sounded so lovely. Thank you so much. That's exactly what I do.

Kannaboom (01:29): Tell me how you got into this.

Emily Kyle (01:32): So originally, traditionally, I started my career as a registered dietician nutritionist, and I always laugh now because all of my schooling, I went ahead and had a master's degree and for the whole time, I hid the fact that I was a cannabis user. I was mortified if anyone would ever have found out because I was a professional. And then a little bit into my career. I kind of, you know, really aligned more with things like holistic nutrition and more of holistic philosophies and being a cannabis user. I just always had that in my repertoire. And so well, two years ago, CBD became like a thing. And so I started tiptoeing talking about it, kind of breaking into the scene and I found that people were so hungry for the information. And then about a year ago, I officially just came out of the cannabis closet and then it's been really the best thing I've ever done both personally and professionally, since.

Kannaboom (02:24): That's really great. There's a lot of hunger for this kind of information. Have you noticed any pushback? Were there any negative consequences along the way?

Emily Kyle (02:31): Yeah, and you know, I lived in the cannabis closet for almost 10 years for fear of pushback. I was terrified about what people would think about me coming out and publicly saying that I use cannabis. But honestly I have had nothing but overwhelming amounts of support. Especially from strangers. I always, you know, I've had a few family members who aren't nearly as supportive as I would hope they have been. But the amount of strangers who are so supportive and thank me every day for my work just absolutely make up for it and make me really, really confident that I made the right decision.

Kannaboom (03:04): Your website is just an amazing resource. You have a lot of videos and recipes and just a ton of information for people who are curious about this. That's a big job.

Emily Kyle (03:13): Thank you so much. My website is my baby. But really what it does is it provides free evidence-based cannabis education to people. And just last month we reached almost half a million page views. So it's really nice to be able to get that information out to people and know that I'm following the science and providing evidence where it's needed so that people really are getting a clear and accurate picture about what cannabis can and cannot do.

Kannaboom (03:38): So where do you begin? Do people come to you with an interest in integrating cannabis into their diet and they want to know more?

Emily Kyle (03:45): Yeah, definitely. I don't work with one-on-one clients anymore, but I used to, and when clients came to me, I found that most often they've already been exposed to cannabis, whether or not they used it many years ago or recently, and they know so little about it, but they know it helps them. And so that's really kind of where I come in with the educational piece of teaching them how cannabis works so that they can learn to manipulate that for their own health.

Kannaboom (04:10): There's a fairly complicated story that I struggle with telling sometimes about, you know, not everyone is aware that we have an endocannabinoid system and we have these CBD one and CB two receptors, and that you can be deficient that can manifest in disease states. Are you looking at cannabis as sort of a whole-food that can be integrated into all kinds of recipes?

Emily Kyle (04:33): Yeah. I really, really believe in the power of whole foods and I believe that cannabis should be considered a whole food as well. No, of course we can use it for medicine. And it deserves a very special place in medicine, but I'd love to take it to nutrition and kind of like, it's also sustainability if you're using the whole plant, it's using the plant for multiple different purposes. And I sometimes think we just happen to overlook nutrition as one of those most important purposes.

Kannaboom (05:00): In addition to kind of augmenting your diet with vape or smoke or edibles like gummies sort of topicals, it can also be available through the meals you prepare.

Emily Kyle (05:12): Right? So my goal, hopefully like in my grander vision of what I see for the future is I would love for people to just to be able to grow a cannabis plant in their backyard, along with their tomatoes and be able to harvest it like basil and use it in different recipes, throw it in your smoothie and just really incorporate it into that everyday lifestyle aspect so that we're constantly nourishing that endocannabinoid system. And I'm particularly interested in the health benefits of CBDA and THCA and while there's not that much study out there right now, what we have is super-promising and considering that eating raw cannabis is non-intoxicating, that makes it a really safe option for everybody to nourish their endocannabinoid system without the fear of getting high.

Kannaboom (05:58): So A is the chemical state before it's been decarboxylated, is that right?

Emily Kyle (06:03): So it's the acidic form right before decarboxylation so for us, if we're throwing it in a smoothie, we're obviously not going through the decarb process that CBDA that THCA, there's really some promising studies on as an antiemetic anti-inflammatory. And so it's just exciting and hopefully we can have more access to the cannabis plant where people actually have a plant in their yard that they can harvest and use for everyday purposes.

Kannaboom (06:30): Right. That sort of seed to table — because this could get cost prohibitive. I mean, if you went to your dispensary and then wanted to take that product and put it into recipes that could...

Emily Kyle (06:42): Yes. And cost is really a huge, huge issue for most people when it comes to accessing cannabis and most so in our medical programs, unfortunately. And if we could teach people how to grow this in their own backyard, it would only benefit them.

Kannaboom (06:57): You are in New York state, correct? Yes. And what's your legal status there?

Emily Kyle (07:02): Oh, it's so embarrassing. We have no recreational. So we have a medical program. We have a, not a great medical program. It really doesn't support our medical folks. We don't allow actual flower in our medical program, only vapes and pills and lozenges. We don't also allow edibles in our medical program. So it's very, very frustrating being in New York, which is supposedly a very progressive state. Obviously it's all about money and tax revenue. So in order for me to legally grow my cannabis plant that I have right now, I ended up becoming a USDA or New York state licensed hemp farmer in order to be allowed to grow a non intoxicating plant.

Kannaboom (07:43): Wow. Really jumping through some hoops.

Emily Kyle (07:46): I know, but you know, I want to provide the education and I also want to protect my family at the same time. So it's like that really delicate balance of how do I do this appropriately and safely.

Kannaboom (07:56): So what you described with CBDA and THCA, if you're using the plant in that form that removes the concern about the psychoactive effect.

Emily Kyle (08:05): Correct. And so what I find with cannabis users is there are two different types of cannabis users. There's a cannabis user who wants to get high, who is looking for that intoxicating effect. And there is that cannabis user who absolutely does not want to get high and does not want an intoxicating effect. And I really like to show people that there are so many different options. So really whatever you want, if you want a mild effect, if you want an extreme effect, if you want no effect, there are options for everybody.

Kannaboom (08:33): That's really good to know because I mean, a lot of people, the old stigma is still, 'Oh, you're a stoner,' and that's a binary thing either you are, or you aren't. But as you mentioned, there's a lot of in-between points. If you pay attention, CBD has a lot of health benefits and it does relieve anxiety. It's not really accurate to say it's completely non-psychoactive because people are using it to treat anxiety. It's a nice thing to integrate into your diet. Should we look at it as a minimum daily requirement, like protein and carbohydrates and the other elements of our diet? How do you think about that, Emily?

Emily Kyle (09:07): Gosh, I wish I had the answer. Like I wish I could say for certain we know so much about our immune systems. We know so much about our digestive systems and we know relatively little about our endocannabinoid systems. And so we wonder, should we be nourishing them daily? Should we be nourishing our endocannabinoid systems with non-intoxicating cannabis, folic acid or tetrahydrocannabinol like acid found in raw cannabis? Should we be only consuming edibles and not inhalables for our best optimal health? There are so many questions that I wish I had the answers to, but I hope that we will start seeing answers to in the future.

Kannaboom (09:46): Right. We're slowly exiting 100 years of prohibition, but we do know that people used cannabis tinctures in the 19 hundreds before that was cannabis and hemp part of the human diet for a long time. And are we just kind of returning to our roots?

Emily Kyle (10:01): Absolutely. The evidence is very, very clear that cannabis has been around for thousands of years and once was used as an ancient traditional Chinese medicine, Indian medicine. And so we are essentially returning back to our roots and a lot of the ways that cannabis was used back then was nutritionally. It was for the seeds and for the hemp seed oil in addition to medicinally. So it's really kind of coming full circle at this point, as we're relooking at cannabis and how we can use it, both medicinally and nutritionally.

Kannaboom (10:31): There's another dimension to cannabis that we often talk about, as genetically you and I can have absolutely different reactions to the same amount of cannabis. And how does that complicate this even further?

Emily Kyle (10:44): I think it makes cannabis one of the most complicated puzzles that we have, it really is that unique individual way. It affects each one of us differently that makes it really hard to control what essentially scares big pharma. Right? We make medications because we know exactly what they're going to do, exactly how they're going to perform in their exact state. When we look at cannabis, the plant itself has over 500 active compounds. And even if you were growing the same strain or the same variety of cannabis there are environmental factors that can make a difference in how each one of those plants end up expressing their cannabinoid profiles and their terpene profiles. And so there are so many variables that come to play here, and that's why I really like to empower individuals to know how to use cannabis in an educated way that they can learn to use it for themselves based on their own personal reaction. Because again, it's so different for everybody.

Kannaboom (11:43): So, we often talk about this show, it's a test-and-learn sort of scenario, best case, I mean, with vapes or edibles or any kind of different cultivar. And you mentioned terpenes well, and that's interesting in that terpenes are very aromatic, right? That is also going to affect your taste buds. You know, when you have a recipe for lasagna, say, you know, that a certain amount of tomato sauce is required and you can go up or down, but you're going to pay attention to the flavor with cannabis. It's going to depend on the terpene profile of that particular cultivar that you're using. Is this a science or an art or both?

Emily Kyle (12:20): Definitely both. I believe it's so much science, but it's so much art and we can't always apply science to real life. That's where the art comes in. That's where the anecdotal evidence comes in and it really can be a beautiful marriage of evidence-based and anecdotal-based evidence until you really come up with something unique that works for you. Because again, it's different for everybody.

Kannaboom (12:41): What are some of your most popular recipes? How do people really take to this? What do they really like?

Emily Kyle (12:47): So obviously it's funny. My most popular recipe is cannabis butter, and I think that's just because that's the most tried and true. That's what people know that their parents made or back in the seventies. That's what so-and-so made for some reason that just always sticks out as the most classic recipe. And I kind of love it because then once it's made, you can use it in just about any recipe that calls for butter sweet or savory, but when we're cooking with cannabis, there really are so many other ways we can use it. That's just really the tip of the iceberg for most people just kind of dipping their toe into the recipes.

Kannaboom (13:22): So somebody's going to go, yeah, I want to, I want to get CBD into my diet and I'm spending a lot on capsules. So why don't I grow some and make some butter? Is that sort of the path?

Emily Kyle (13:32): Yeah. So I really, really hope that everyone will start to be able to grow their own cannabis. And obviously it depends on where you live, but really we don't see fresh or raw cannabis, even in recreational dispensaries. The only people who truly have access to it are the ones who grow it at home. So I'd love to see wider access and more people be willing to grow the plant and legally allowed to grow the plant for easier access.

Kannaboom (13:57): Right? So having your own kind of vertically integrated operation.

Emily Kyle (14:02): If possible, you know, and I find most, most cannabis consumers, long-term life-long cannabis consumers end up eventually going that way anyway, because growing cannabis kind of just becomes a part of a way of life for them. And hopefully most people are, are in legal states where they don't have any kind of worry associated with growing.

Kannaboom (14:22): Are people using it to treat acute symptoms or as more of a sort of a preventative?

Emily Kyle (14:29): I've seen it both more. So I'm interested in the preventative, but I have seen a lot of anecdotal evidence on people using raw cannabis juice as an antiemetic. So for people who are really suffering with nausea, perhaps pregnancy-related nausea, and so we don't have any of the clinical evidence needed, but anecdotally that's where the scientists should start looking. And you know, is this a viable option for people, especially because so many people have to reach for prescription medications to take care of the nausea.

Kannaboom (14:59): Tell me more about the raw cannabis juice. You have a blender, are you dropping leaves in there? Or how do you make that?

Emily Kyle (15:05): Yeah, so I do recommend using a masticating juicer if possible. I know it sounds a little pretentious. You can absolutely put it in the blender, but so interestingly enough, I've seen anecdotal reports of people throwing their cannabis leaves in a blender, and they speculate that it was either the friction or the heat caused by the blender, actually decarboxylated the THCA during the process. And it ended up being a more intoxicating smoothie than they had hoped for. So if you're using a masticating juicer or a regular juicer, you're not going to have that friction, which could potentially decarb your product. But again, it's, you know, it depends on how much you want to experiment, but for me juicing it, I prefer to juice it with other things, very strong taste. So I like to do a little bit of spinach, celery, cucumber, fresh ginger, and fresh lemon.

Kannaboom (15:55): If you do want to use, get the intoxicating effects, you're going to get that by heating the plant up. So if you had a cannabis plant in the backyard and you wanted not to get high, you would add that late in the cooking process. So it wouldn't be decarboxylated?

Emily Kyle (16:12): I think it would really depend on any of the recipes that you're looking to make. Cause that will have a big difference in taste and flavor. But like essentially say you have like decarb cannabis, I've put it in like taco seasoning before and you can cook it and it, but it will provide an intoxicating effect if it's decarbed. Now, if you want to just straight up for the nutritional benefits, I've read that the nutritional benefits are stronger when it's raw. So it's more beneficial to consume it when it's raw, rather than drying it, curing it and where we would traditionally decarb smoke it, consuming it.

Kannaboom (16:45): So does it taste good? I mean, do you put it on a salad or you just don't want to cook it?

Emily Kyle (16:51): So that's a great question. Does it taste good? I feel like most folks who have cannabis for a long, long period of time really become cannabis, like connoisseurs, almost like a wine sommelier or someone who likes the different taste of beers. You can pick up on those different terpene profiles and really appreciate it. But I find that people who are new to cannabis really sometimes find the taste very off-putting and that's absolutely understandable, obviously that really strong terpene profile contributes to that. So there are different ways that you can cook cannabis or consume cannabis to reduce the taste. But I do want people to kind of get used to the taste and hopefully bring it into their palette so that they can learn to appreciate it and, and hopefully use it in everyday cooking.

Kannaboom (17:36): And I guess that's the art of being a nutritionist is finding ways to make it palatable and presenting those recipes to people.

Emily Kyle (17:42): Exactly. Because if you're consuming it like a leaf inside a salad, it's essentially like eating spinach or like eating kale. And for some people they don't like spinach they don't like kale. So that's absolutely fine. Everybody doesn't have to like the same things. It's just learning. How do you like it? And what's the best way for you to prepare it so that you can ultimately enjoy it when you're consuming it.

Kannaboom (18:04): We made cannabis oil and I think we used the sous vide. Do you ever use that?

Emily Kyle (18:10): Yeah. So a lot of people really like that method.

Kannaboom (18:13): You can kind of contain the odor then. Yeah.

Emily Kyle (18:16): That's an issue for people. A lot of people really, really worry about making edibles at their own house and especially decarbing because it does make a huge smell. It really is nice to have safe options for people who maybe live in apartments or, or don't have free rein to bake, whatever they want.

Kannaboom (18:33): Say, you want to have a dinner party and you want to have the intoxicating effect and maybe you have a sativa and uplifting sativa at the start and then, an indica in the dessert, is that part of cooking with cannabis?

Emily Kyle (18:46): My gosh, can I come to your house for dinner? Have you ever seen that? There's a lot of actually really interesting cooking cannabis shows on Netflix where they just have these all elegant dinner parties and where they're, they're pairing. And it's, again, going back to those terpene profiles, like the flavor of the cannabis with the food or with the wine, and each course is a little bit different and kind of really showcases the wide variety of tastes that cannabis can have.

Kannaboom (19:11): For the chef and for the home cook. It's one more ingredient that really can open up your repertoire.

Emily Kyle (19:18): Absolutely. And it's definitely one ingredient that just takes a little bit of education behind. And once you have that, you're pretty much good to go. You can do what you want in the kitchen and experiment and come up with your own creation.

Kannaboom (19:30): You've seen through your following — you said you've had half a million visits to your website — this is kind of catching on. People are doing it.

Emily Kyle (19:38): Yeah, it's really interesting. And I keep saying to myself, 'What's it going to look like when cannabis is actually federally legal?' but I think it just goes to show our changing culture is that the majority of Americans are overwhelmingly in support of cannabis, finding relief with cannabis and looking to actively incorporate it into their everyday life.

Kannaboom (19:57): So you mentioned that previously you worked one-on-one you have an online class now.

Emily Kyle (20:02): Yeah. So in an effort to kind of work with more people and reach more people, instead of working one-on-one with clients, I offer this online course, which really works, walks someone through. So my ideal client, they know cannabis works for them, but they really don't know much more than that. And so my goal of the class is to show them all of the different routes and ways to use cannabis and all the different variables so that they can safely and feel comfortable experimenting with cannabis in their own home until they find their sweet spot dose or their perfect application method, or a combination of both to really target whatever issue they're looking at, whether it's anxiety or pain or just general relaxation. I believe cannabis can for just about everybody, but people really need education to feel safe and confident moving forward.

Kannaboom (20:52): What about children? Is there a concern about kids having too much?

Emily Kyle (20:56): Yeah. I really stay away from discussing cannabis use and children simply because there is no clinical evidence to support either way what is safe and what is not. What I do say to parents is, you know, education is power. And I do think that if you're considering a prescription medication for a child, cannabis as a safer first alternative, but I always tell people, you know, you have to go back to your doctor. You have to find a doctor that you feel safe with and trust and discuss it because when it comes to children like as adults, we can monitor ourselves with cannabis. It's much more difficult for children and it's just uncharted territory for so many people. And there are medical experts out there who know how to treat children with cannabis. I'm just not one of them.

Kannaboom (21:41): I just the other day spoke with a pediatric nurse who has made the switch into CBD and cannabis. And for some conditions, you know, epilepsy and autism, some of these intractable conditions that are really hard to treat, it's a godsend. It changes people's lives.

Emily Kyle (21:55): It's an absolute lifesaver. And I hope that people can continue to see that. And I don't want people to ever feel stigmatized using cannabis for their children because it's a perfectly viable option. Now, me personally, I have a six-year-old, he is allowed to use CBD products in my home because I know the quality of my products. But he really also knows that cannabis is a medicine. It's not something you play with. It's not something that you take on your own. It's when mom gives it to you, just like if I was to give him ibuprofen. And I think that's just it's parenting style. Everybody has a different parenting style and it just has to be what you're okay with as a parent,

Kannaboom (22:32): You mentioned your product. So you have your own line of CBD products.

Emily Kyle (22:36): I do. And I, I really started out because when I was working with clients, so many clients would say, okay, well, where do I get it? And I needed to know as a healthcare provider that I was really truly providing the best possible product out there to my patients. So I ended up working with a company where I got to fly out to Colorado. I saw the fields, I saw the processing facilities. I saw the lab, really got to see everything from A to Z so that I could feel 100% confident that I was providing a safe and quality product for people.

Kannaboom (23:07): Okay. You contracted with them and you put your label on, you're very confident that it's a clean and efficacious product.

Emily Kyle (23:14): Yes, I really I'm really proud of it. It took a lot of work and I just really feel confident knowing that based on, you know, people's resolve to using it, that it's really helping people.

Kannaboom (23:26): Oh, you've also published cookbooks, including one with your husband who is a chef. Can you tell us about that?

Emily Kyle (23:32): Yeah. And so earlier on in my career, I actually started out as a food blogger before I ended up going into cannabis. And so I was so super lucky to be approached by a cookbook publisher, and we ended up working on it. I actually have my fourth cookbook now coming out with them in January. And my husband helped me with that too. And it's kind of been amazing because my husband originally owned a restaurant, his own restaurant and worked a lot. And when he realized that he could make money on the internet with me, he decided to leave his restaurant job and work with me. And so now we do cookbooks and he really makes all of my cannabis recipes on the internet as well.

Kannaboom (24:10): Wow. What a partnership.

Emily Kyle (24:12): Yeah. You know, we never, ever, it never occurred to us ever to work together. And then one day we were like, Oh, we'd be a perfect there. And it's been awesome ever since.

Kannaboom (24:21): What is your, what are your cookbooks about? Does each have a theme or a particular?

Emily Kyle (24:29): Yeah, so all three of my first cookbooks that are out are all surrounding thyroid health. So originally before I was working in cannabis, I was working with folks with autoimmune and inflammatory conditions. And so I kind of got really deep into autoimmune the AIP, Autoimmune Paleo Protocol and how people can use their diet to kind of pinpoint certain triggers that are flaring them during autoimmune flares. And so that really kind of was a passion project before I ever stepped into cannabis. And so I'm really excited. My next cookbook coming out is actually more, it's not diet prescriptive. It's just a clean-eating meal prep cookbook, which I think will be really, really helpful for my cannabis consumers as well, because a lot of folks I find worry about the munchies and worry about things associated with cannabis and eating. So hopefully it will be a perfect match.

Kannaboom (25:19): Auto-Immune how does cannabis line up with that? Do you think there are benefits for those patients?

Emily Kyle (25:25): Yeah, so it's actually kind of this spark between auto-immune and cannabis really kind of started growing for me. Because folks with autoimmune inflammatory conditions are just riddled with so many issues or symptoms that can be relieved by cannabis. But then we have to wonder at what point we know our auto immune system has dysregulation at what point can regulating our endocannabinoid system have a positive impact on our immune system. We know almost all of our CB two receptors are located in our immune system. So there has to be a connection. Of course, we need more scientific evidence out there, but some of the most common autoimmune conditions, I don't know if you're familiar with Dr. Ethan Russo, but he proposes that a Clinical Endocannabinoid Deficiency is at the heart of some of our worst auto-immune conditions IBS, fibromyalgia, and migraine. So there's no doubt that there's a question. There's no doubt that there is a very significant link. And what I find is most people who use cannabis for symptom management either are in chronic pain or have an auto-immune or inflammatory condition that they're looking for symptom management for.

Kannaboom (26:33): Right. The endocannabinoid deficiency syndrome. Well, it would be only anecdotal, but have you seen patients who improve when you put on a diet that includes cannabis...

Emily Kyle (26:46): Only anecdotal, but yes, absolutely. There's no doubt. When I was working one-on-one with clients, it was a combination of nutrition therapy followed by cannabinoid therapy. So we would do nutrition protocols first to see what type of impact that made followed by cannabis protocols. Really the combination of the two made all the difference for so many.

Kannaboom (27:06): Well, and of course we have COVID 19, and we know that on the backend of that disease, the immune system kind of turns on itself and what's called the cytokine storm. I would never say, use the word 'cure' or even 'prevent,' but there's some research out of Israel about a proprietary mix of terpenes and CBD that seems to help. There's also respiratory syndrome that seems to do better when cannabis is involved too. Maybe now is the right time to get canvas into your diet.

Emily Kyle (27:39): Yeah. I mean, there's not enough scientific evidence out there, but I, I just wish there was, especially when we're, we're in this pandemic and we're thinking we have a potential solution, but it's actually a Schedule One federally illegal substance. We can't study it. And we won't ever know it's so unfair. I would love to see it removed off. Obviously CBD is still not on Schedule One, but all cannabis, other higher than 0.3% THC is. And I just would love to see legal studies done. So we really know like what, what can cannabis help?

Kannaboom (28:12): Right. Well, and you're sort of blazing a path. I mean we're waiting for our laws to catch up with our science and our culture, to some extent, do you know anyone else who's kind of doing what you're doing?

Emily Kyle (28:24): I'm honestly surprised, I have this, I am active socially on Instagram. And I'm very surprised to see how many women out there are being very vocal about ending the cannabis stigma. And in showing that women, especially mothers, can responsibly use cannabis and live very healthy, successful lives. And I see them being such great role models for real life. People who need a role model like that.

Kannaboom (28:49): As you said earlier, you don't have to get high. There's a lot of points on the spectrum. If you want some mild relief from anxiety, you can find that it may take a little testing and learning, but that's part of the plant and you might be able to find that.

Emily Kyle (29:05): Exactly. And it almost makes it easier to relate back to nutrition. You know, we know fad diets don't work doing something for two weeks. Does it work? It's easy to put into context that we need to really put some time and some effort into what we're doing in order to see results.

Kannaboom (29:20): What most excites you about the whole CBD cannabis scene right now?

Emily Kyle (29:25): Oh my gosh. I mean, it all excites me, but really thinking about federal legalization, opening it up and making this plant accessible to all regardless of income status really excites me. If we were all allowed to put a seed in the ground in our own backyards and see what happens, that would be the cherry on top of all of this, for me, I feel like accessibility still remains a huge issue. And even if we are federally legalized if we don't allow for home grow and only allow recreational dispensaries, accessibility will continue to be an issue. So homegrow for me is really the most exciting thing coming up.

Kannaboom (30:00): It is one more ingredient that home cooks can use. There's a learning curve involved. They take it on and we live healthier and happier lives.

Emily Kyle (30:10): Absolutely. I always say, you know, we trust every adult in America to use alcohol. There's no reason we can't trust every adult in America to use cannabis, which is significantly safer, significantly, more beneficial.

Kannaboom (30:22): Well said, Emily, is there anything we haven't covered that we should?

Emily Kyle (30:26): No, but I thank you so much for kind of bringing this topic to light and being interested in it because it makes me excited to see other people interested in it as well.

Kannaboom (30:35): Oh yeah. There's so much to learn. And you know, every week I find somebody who's got just an incredible story to tell. I just want to make sure we know where to find you online. You mentioned Instagram. I know you're on Twitter. You're probably everywhere.

Emily Kyle (30:47): Yeah. I'm just about everywhere. You can find me at EmilyKyleNutrition.com from there. You've got my Instagram, Facebook and all the other links to find me.

Kannaboom (30:57): Very good. Well, thank you so much for sharing your expertise. Happy to help you get this message out there because it's so important.

Emily Kyle (31:03): Oh, I appreciate it so much. Thank you so much for having me.

Kannaboom (31:07): You've been listening to the Kannaboom Podcast with host Tom Stacey. If you like the show and want to know more, please check us out at Kannaboom with a K dot com and please leave us a review at Apple podcasts or wherever you listen, see you next week.