61 | Kyle Turley, Former NFL All-Pro

“In that experience I had that truly showed me the power of cannabis and how you can use this as a medicine to live a better life, I had to start standing up, I had to start standing on a soap box, as high as I could and yelling you know, as loudly as possible.”

— Kyle Turley

NFL players are modern-day gladiators, putting their bodies at risk in the arena, and often sustaining serious and lasting injuries. We’ve learned about the dangers of over-medicating opioid pain-relievers — and the endocannabinoid system — yet widespread acceptance of cannabis is still lacking. So former All-Pro Kyle Turley is speaking out, on behalf of other former and active players and the public, about how cannabis saved his life, and about the right everyone has to medicinal cannabis. Listen and learn about Kyle’s perspective on how:

  • Cannabis and CBD can help with COVID-19 infections
  • It’s a safer, more effective alternative to many pharmaceuticals
  • Cannabis helps with his light sensitivity, vertigo and overall pain tolerance
  • Other players joined him in establishing the Gridiron Cannabis Coalition
  • He keeps a strain journal to track what works best for him
  • His CBD brand, Neuro XPF, and Shango, the dispensary he’s working with in his home town

Follow Kyle on Twitter.

Transcript of Podcast with Kyle Turley

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Kannaboom (00:00): It's Tom, you may have heard the name Kyle Turley. He was an All-Pro NFL lineman with the Saints, Rams and Chiefs. And since retiring from football, he started his own CBD company. Well, I reached out to Kyle because he made a claim back in March that cannabis and CBD could cure and prevent COVID-19 infections, for which he was subsequently chastised by the FDA. They didn't like that at all. But recent reports from Israel have shown that CBD and a blend of terpenes could help the immune system when it generates the over-response that's known as the cytokine storm. American scientists have been working on this, too, of course, including a team at the University of South Carolina, which has shown that THC can help with the Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. It also comes with COVID infections. So maybe Kyle was right. But when we finally got together, we ended up not talking so much about this aspect of CBD. What I found instead was that among the almost 60 guests I've had on this podcast so far, Kyle Turley is the most passionate advocate for cannabis and CBD that I've come across. He speaks with a lot of conviction and he credits cannabis with saving his life. So it's still an open question as to whether CBD can cure, prevent COVID-19 infections, at least to me. But after hearing Kyle Turley, I am more convinced than ever that just about all of us should be taking a daily dose of CBD. So my podcast and my website, Kannaboom with a k.com and my weekly newsletter 5 Boom Friday are all focused on how cannabinoids and CBD can help you live better and achieve better wellness, and how to find CBD that's trusted and reliable. You can subscribe at Apple podcast, Stitcher, Spotify, Google podcasts, or your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoy the show, please leave a review and help us expand our reach. And here's my interview with Kyle Turley.

Kannaboom (01:39): Cannabis is booming and Kannaboom is on it. Welcome to the Kannaboom Podcast, where we interview experts on the changing story of humans, health and hemp. From San Diego. Here's your host, Tom Stacey. We're here with former All-Pro offensive lineman with the New Orleans Saints, who also played with the St. Louis Rams and the Kansas City Chiefs, Kyle Turley, who also has his own band and has been involved in starting up dispensaries and a CBD brand. Hey Kyle, how are ya?

Kyle Turley (02:06): Hey, I'm good. I appreciate you having me on, thank you.

Kannaboom (02:08): You know, earlier in the year you were in some hot water for making some claims about CBD and the virus. How did that go?

Kyle Turley (02:19): I've been in hot water for a lot longer than that. You know what I mean, talking about this plant and it's unfortunate that the science community doesn't just want to fess up, man. They're unbelievably suppressing the truth about this plant and its ability to address all of these issues. You know, COVID-19 is a minor, minor, minor thing that this can deal with, you know, enacting the endogenous cannabinoid system is what this is about. And so they don't even have to talk about CBD. That the biggest thing is that they're continuing to suppress what is, you know, recognized as the number one regulatory system in the human body.

Kannaboom (03:06): Right, and I've done 50-some podcasts. Now it's hard to get anybody, you know, I've had several doctors on, it's not taught in medical schools. We're trying to get past the stigma of this, but the science has already shown that it's safe and the culture hasn't caught up with that yet.

Kyle Turley (03:23): Well, not only that, you know, the science has shown that you know that it's not only safe, but it is necessary. It is something that the human body needs like water. And so, you know, when we're being distracted by all of these synthetic medications that have unbelievable statistics behind them in morbidity you know, resolutions for that matter as to what they're trying to do you know, and they don't, they just continue to mask these issues. You know, we're really ignoring human health on a level that is quite questionable, man. It is just beyond me as to why, you know, for me, it's an answer that I'm looking for is the why you know, I understand the science, the science is simple. If you sit back and listen to it, examine it, look at it for what it is. It's quite simple. I mean, I didn't get a degree from San Diego State still to this day. I went there for five years, you know, I played football. I went to class every day, just like they made us otherwise we had to run and do sprints. And I've been asked to speak at Harvard twice on issues that are just so just juvenile to me, you know, I mean, this is just beyond ignorance. When it boils down to it.

Kannaboom (04:45): People like to slam the pharmaceutical companies and sometimes pharmaceuticals are necessary, but is it a matter of, is it just follow the money does that explain it?

Kyle Turley (04:54): Well, I think that's the hitch in it all, the pharmaceutical companies are not necessary at the end of the day when the endogenous cannabinoid system is understood and accessed properly. You can, you can cure cancer and, you know, making Rick Simpson oil in your backyard. I mean, there's that, so, you know, but again, that doesn't, to me answer necessarily the why, you know, because of what, you know, what is the true purpose behind suppressing and ignoring blatantly? Again, what has been recognized as the number one regulatory system in the human body? You know, there is no Vicodin system, aspirin system, all these other drugs, they continue to parade around here and to a Z-Pak every million sold about 10,000 people are going to die. You know, these are statistics that are real and cannabis has this, you know, non-lethal factor to it as well. Uh and, you know, in moments like COVID-19, and we're having people like Dr. Birx and Fauci say things like we have to use whatever we can right now, what, you know, it's amazing that I would have received such a backlash and that the more so the cannabis community didn't unite unbelievably around this, a minor virus, this, this, this cures cancer, again, this is something that has stopped kids from having 300 seizures a day to nothing. I mean, a minor respiratory virus where the science speaks to actually even smoking cannabis as the number one thing to cure this virus igniting the CB one and CB two receptors in the lung wall to defeat a respiratory virus.

Kannaboom (06:51): Yeah. I saw some research last week out of the University of South Carolina, where they're talking about Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome, ARDS, and they pretty much prove THC beats it — kind of a big deal.

Kyle Turley (07:05): Well, the science is there. Again, it's just a matter of the rest of the world catching up.

Kannaboom (07:11): I've talked with previous guests too, about the whole history of prohibition. And, you know, in the 1930s, it was about keeping blacks and Mexicans kind of in their place. And Nixon had the war on drugs in the sixties where it was, it was a cultural thing, but once we went through the eighties and nineties and it became known as a medicine originally for people with AIDS and then the endocannabinoid system was discovered, yeah, then we had the science, but there's still a lingering stigma, I guess that has lasted for decades.

Kyle Turley (07:45): Which speaks to every one of those things, you know, pretty much being inconsequential to as the 'why' you know, I mean, it truly does. These things have been used, I guess, in the past, but ultimately I think those are things that just had been discovered by suppression of this plant. You know, I don't get it. It doesn't make sense and not enough countries around the world are exposing this. There's only a few and they're even suppressing it to degrees. I mean, even Canada with all of its progression has limited you know, certain forms of cannabis being produced. You know, they're trying to limit the amount of THC in products. I mean, the THC levels that I have in my system currently because I take everything, I use it unbelievably medicinally I've figured out the dose levels, I've taken at least a hundred milligrams of CBD daily, a full spectrum another 50 milligrams of isolate. Uh and then I'm using cannabis daily in certain strains as smokable because of their, you know, factors of dealing with real ailments that it cures literally like light sensitivity, vertigo, all of these things that I experienced for so many years after playing the game of football that added up to a daily life experience of having to cope with that as reality of trying to live daily with having vertigo happen at any moment light sensitivity off the charts. And then I don't have that anymore, you know, to the Rick Simpson oil at night, every night now for the last two and a half years because of the first two and a half months in to take in Rick Simpson oil and building that tolerance of THC as he speaks about in his videos. I applied this and, Oh my gosh, like so many things just start to heal. Plantar fasciitis, gone neuropathy, creeping up my legs, where it had me in so much pain that I contemplated, you know, as soon as the right prosthetics are made, where they become permanent, I'm into where I'm running. Again, I can walk barefoot for the first time in 20 years for more than five minutes a day. And I can go all day like that too. You know, the, just the cognitive experience that I'm having speaks to this medicine being very true and real. I don't take an aspirin, you know, for six years now, I don't take supplements, protein shakes, any of those things anymore, unbelievably night and day difference. When you commit to cannabis and find your strains and understand THC and CBD and CBN and CBG and all these things and THCA and everything else that we're understanding now about cannabis and applying those things daily, my THC levels are off the charts. And they're trying to limit that, you know, across this country and legislation where it's like, really, why, why would you do that? If you understood this other than there's, you know, some real deviant you know, nature behind it,

Kannaboom (11:06): An NFL athlete, you're subject to more pain and injury obviously than most of the population. So you're just a walking wounded guy. And it sounds like this has pretty much saved your existence. You know, you're not subject to the kind of pain that a lot of your cohorts might still live with.

Kyle Turley (11:25): Well, I, you know, I do, I, I, I experienced the pain on levels that, you know, would put people in bed every day. But that's the beauty of cannabis. It is number one about the brain. I started a CBD company. I had to put the word neuro in it. We originally Neuro Armor, UnderArmor sued us. We had to change it where Neuro XPF neuro has to stay, because I understand that everything starts in the brain and understanding the endogenous cannabinoid system happens in the brain. And so for me you know, this has been an experience of basically channeling willpower channeling, you know, the ability to use your brain, which works the rest of your body to will it to get out there and get it back, get your life back. You know, it is not easy. The pain is unbelievable from my back surgeries to my knee surgeries, ankles, joints that are every one of them, bone on bone, the arthritis is off the charts. The pain factors, as far as painkiller goes, there's no painkiller. And that's why you don't have painkiller clinics. You have pain management clinics and you know, these idea of a painkiller out there I've not experienced anything better than Rick Simpson oil, as far as an anti-inflammatory, which is what kills pain, because inflammation is what causes all of these things from pain to cancer, to anything it's only inflammation, and there's nothing better than cannabis as an anti-inflammatory.

Kannaboom (13:03): So then when you say as a painkiller, you still have pain, but the cannabis helps you kind of compartmentalize that pain. Would that be an accurate statement?

Kyle Turley (13:11): 100%. I mean, the brain is an amazing organ, and if you can control it then the pain becomes something you can understand and address, you know, you, you start to know your body, you start to know your nature and what you can and can't do, and your brain, and that allows you to tap into the things you need to be doing, to sustain, you know, to be able to be physically fit enough, or just mentally you know, cognitively there enough to make a proper decision. And that is starts, you know, from waking up in the morning and getting out of bed to, you know, everything else that follows and having a mindset that is something that, you know, for me, cannabis has helped me tap back into, you know, that drive, that desire, that vigor that you had as a young person that motivates you to get up and do something, you know, whether that is sitting at a computer and, you know, doing your thing there or going and working out and having your day be meaningful and productive. Cannabis has proven to be the key to that. And that is the key to it all is motivation and nothing motivates you more than firing those neurons that cannabis does when it enters your system.

Kannaboom (14:35): And that's so opposite of the stereotypical story that gets told about slackers, you know, you're going to be a couch potato if you go down this road.

Kyle Turley (14:45): Yeah.

Kannaboom (14:46): The reality is absolutely different. So I saw, I think on the Wikipedia page, I was looking at that you started the Gridiron Cannabis Coalition, is that right?

Kyle Turley (14:55): Um you know, yeah. That's one of the things I guess I started back in the day we were going around to, well, I was, I started going around and conventions, I really saw, you know, I mean, I had the experience myself and my friends were, I was living in Nashville about seven years ago. My friends were all out here, California. They're all, man, you gotta get back to California, get in the medical marijuana program, figure this out, man, get you and all these pills. So that's what happened. I moved back here and you know, because I had just tons of things going wrong with my health. I was in and out of the emergency room constantly in Nashville having seizures just developing all these conditions, you know, post-football career that were unbelievably disabling in orthopedic and cognitive, you know, ailments. Um they were prescribing me constant, you know, opiates that just never did anything but mask what was happening. And others that made things a lot worse. And so anyways, ultimately coming back to California, allowed me the opportunity to get back into understanding cannabis. And, and, and then we're finding these strains. You know, I went on a hunt to understand how this was working. Cause I knew that there was something different in these different departments as I went in and they have indica and sativa and hybrids and all that. There's different, you know, in all of them. And they each do have a unique opportunity to address ailments, you know, and, you know, for those that want to sit on the couch and do nothing and eat potato chips all day, there's that strain. But as a medicine, I've just found unbelievable resolutions in it. And so, you know, the stigmas have just fallen off you know, as I've progressed through this and then telling my story out there at these conventions as we started in little hovels and back alleys and, and warehouses, you know, illegally having these things evolve to what we see now or what we saw before COVID-19 and people not understand listening to what we were saying and that we can be out in the restaurants and schools and churches and everything, and have conventions still, you know, and the magnitude that it was getting to with cannabis you know it was a rapid pace. You know, Gridiron Cannabis Coalition was a great addition to a number of great people and organizations that originated back then about six years ago from Weed for Warriors group to, you know, the Gridiron cannabis coalition at the end of the day, it was just, you know, we are all just a bunch of guys that are trying to fight for this plant and we try to rally people up and we put names around them and build little websites and Instagram pages, but, you know, and some people have really taken those to certain levels that I, you know, I think I could have taken the Gridiron Cannabis Coalition to in notoriety and, you know, but it's not about that. You know, so Gridiron Cannabis Coalition was just one of those, I guess if you will, a, just to name a conduit, something for people to tag onto, you know, and understand this is a group of people, not just me out here, you know, and we rallied Ricky Williams, Jim McMahon, Eben Britton, Nate Jackson, Marvin Washington, all these great football players were just started rising up and going around and speaking our truth you know, to people and what this plant's done for us. And, you know, it's again, been a great honor to be a part of that movement and the efforts you know, that we're now seeing the benefits of in DC or we're getting some real legislation passed nationwide.

Kannaboom (18:43): I have to applaud you and all the names you mentioned, I mean, you guys have the platform and you have the attention and it's risky. I mean, you know, Ricky Williams paid a big price being kicked out of the league three or four times. You know, we just lost Cliff Robertson, who was also one of the pioneers, but you guys really helped bring social change. People look up to you, it isn't without risk to take that stand. Thank you for doing that.

Kyle Turley (19:07): Well, you know I knew that, and I saw it, you know, over the years, but honestly I was at such a low point. You know, I, I mean, I was there when Ricky Williams and all that happened. I was on the Saints with him and they were doing all that with him and then stayed close to him. He was at my house in Mexico when they thought he was in a cave in India and, you know when he was on hiatus from the Dolphins, you know, that madness. And Rick's always been a good friend of mine, you know, a brother as I consider him. And you know, we, we fought hard. I, it was tough to you know, be, I mean, for over 10, 15 years, I've been talking about this, you know, for the first 10 years it had to be subliminal, you know? And I've got a lot of, you know, evidence of that and, and footage from interviews trying to interject. But, you know, for me, I didn't truly understand the, the, the real nature of this plant and its unbelievable power and its ability. You know, I was intermixing opiates with cannabis that was random and had no idea what strains I was using. And since then, you know, in that experience I had that truly showed me the power of cannabis and how you can use this as a medicine to live a better life. I had to start standing up, I had to start standing on a soap box, as high as I could and yelling at, you know as loudly as possible, you know, and I've been to DC and I've been to all these places that they say you need to go to, you know, let them hear your voice. And I've been as loud as I can, to be as loud as possible about it because I can't deny what it's done for me. And I know what it would do for everyone. You know, now that I understand the true science.

Kannaboom (20:59): My backstory is my younger brother was in a car accident in the early eighties. And he subsequently developed epilepsy and of course, they put them on all these medications. And at the time we didn't know about the endocannabinoid system and people warned us, you know, don't let him smoke weed. That'd be the worst thing. So we didn't, and eventually the pharmaceuticals, I, I believe kind of wrecked his liver and he seizured out when he was only 27 and my I'm angry cause he would be alive today. If you know, we knew we had this organic medicine that treated things like that, but like epilepsy. So that drives me, but...

Kyle Turley (21:36): My grandfather just passed in a home. I begged them. I tell people, I begged them to give in the beginning is my statement. I begged them in the beginning to give my grandfather CBD in the end. They were begging me ultimately at the end of his stay in his life last year we had his funeral and they were begging me because of more experiences that people were having with CBD. And I know my grandfather would be here still, you know, he didn't have to die of Alzheimer's and dementia. It's unbelievable as to the power of this in dealing with the brain, not one person with a traumatic brain injury or has seizure disorders or any neurological issues should be given anything other than cannabis and a proper diet period. Right.

Kannaboom (22:27): How do you feel about CTE? Do you think it helps with that?

Kyle Turley (22:31): 100%? I mean, I've gone through the NFL concussion testing programs now for over six years. And in the first stages, years ago, I was diagnosed with stage two progressive dementia. This is through six hour baseline assessment program testing, or however they call it BAP tests. And there's unbelievable scrutiny of testing. And you know, so unless I'm some sort of really smart person, I, I can fool these doctors now for over the last 15 years to have compiled a medical file. That's probably a foot thick of neurological, mostly, you know, damage and conditions and ailments and disabilities. Things that over the last few years have in many ways gotten better. And in every way allowed me has allowed me to manage and deal with this disease, which is very real and very true, you know? And it is universal in people that have had traumatic brain injuries. This is not just a football disease. This is the development of what science understands. Again, you know, tau protein and these you know things that are unbelievably progressive in their, their growth factors. As far as diseases are concerned and rapidly, as we understand this as a rapidly progressive disease I've had multiple tests since that diagnosis that every one of these doctors keeps telling me that I am showing unbelievable progress, not just staying where I'm at.

Kannaboom (24:29): You've got a quality of life that would have escaped you without this medicine. And you're still a young guy. You have decades to go and it's going to help your longevity and your quality of life. Does the NFL listen, are they hearing this and are they making it part of their protocols going forward?

Kyle Turley (24:47): You know, I don't know. I mean, they listen, you know, they, they listen, you know, I can say that, but I don't know, you know, as far as proactive progress, I don't know, obviously not. And I have conversations, you know, I've had conversations, I continue to have conversations with these people, these doctors that are the heads of, you know, the chief medical officer of the NFL is Allen Sills, who is the head of neurology at Vanderbilt university in Nashville. I had over an hour conversation with this man on the phone where he recognized everything I said as being true. And then, you know, every one of these guys says the same statement. It's going to take some time, Kyle, you know, and I'm just unbelievably tired of that. So tired of hearing this excuse from the medical community that it's going to take more time, you know, we're gonna, we're going to need more time to roll this out. It's like, what, what, who are you, where, what planet are you from? What alien race are you representing here? Because the level of inhumanity that the NFL has expressed after the exposure of the truth to cannabis, let alone the U S government who owns patents on this as neuroprotectants and antiinflammatories antioxidants. The level of neglect here speaks to, you know, so many conspiracy avenues you can go it's, it's ridiculous. But the NFL listens and they'll continue to do so, I guess, I mean, we've gotten some major headway as far as, you know, the past is concerned, I guess, or, you know, from the NFL who's you know say they're not gonna penalize players for testing positive for cannabis anymore to the NCAA increasing its level and threshold of THC. Now with 35 nanograms from 15 to the IOC changing there's to what should be the athletic standard of 152 nanograms of THC after the directly after the inclusion of the X Games, ironically, and you know, around the world, man, again Israel is leading the way and they've been funded by our government for over 50 years on cannabis research. And you have now had American presidents, like Jimmy Carter say they've cured diseases like cancer in Israel, in a foreign country on foreign soil. And that should alarm everyone. So yeah, the NFL listens just like the government and everybody else in the medical community. They want to listen, but everyone, they continue to just say, we need more time. Why, why, why do you need more time with something that is proven to not have ever killed a soul in the history of the world and is only healing people by the millions worldwide, in every country, in every region that a plant can grow.

Kannaboom (28:18): Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. I've talked with chemists who talk about, it takes a billion dollars in 10 years to develop a pharmaceutical. And obviously when you can grow it in your backyard, you don't need the FDA to run those tests and you have a, a safe and effective medicine that as you said, has never killed anybody. So I guess until they come around, it's sort of an underground scenario where it's on the down low and everybody knows, okay, this, this helps, it's going to help with any retired NFL player. Who's not getting tested anymore, but as, as you noted in the NCAA and in the NFL, there's still testing going on and they've ratcheted up the, I guess, the acceptable level, but it's probably not high enough.

Kyle Turley (29:04): No, not at all. I mean, again, until they stop testing and that, you know, from sports to any job until they stop testing any amount is just completely goes against what science speaks to, you know as allowing a person to have their, their control of their health or having good health period to limit the amount of THC in a human body system is suppressing one of the most capable things in a human body to allow everything to work properly. And you know, the notion of it being euphoric is only attached to, you know, those who would be against it because they could easily expose all of the strains that don't get you high. They could expose THCA that doesn't get you high. They could expose, you know, meeting with people as doctors and figuring out like they do with every other pharmaceutical which strain you are so that you don't have to have this euphoric experience that is something that's not good for you or desirable and, you know, feel inactions and all these, you know, just like they do Vicodin or any psych med, you know, when they prescribed me Wellbutrin and said, 'Let's see how you do on that. You know, and if something, you know, be careful and watch out, you know, there might be some side effects.' If that doesn't work, we'll come back in and get you a new one. And the process to do that is unbelievably dredging. I mean, you go, you have to go through it for two weeks. They, they, they make you stay on a drug for two weeks to understand what this drug does to you and your body and your mind. Well, Welbutrin made me almost want to jump off of a building, so, you know not good doc, you got anything else cause this suicide warning on here is actually real. "Whoa, Glad you didn't go down that road. Kyle at sear, give you now Depakote, let's try this one.' And you know, it worked as far as it felt to suppress episodes of vertigo and seem to control those things and stopped having these episodes of vertigo constantly. So, you know, Hey, something's helping me do that. And that's a huge thing, you know, keeping me from driving a car and, you know doing normal things in life. You know, so let's stay on that for six years until the real side effects and long term use start to surface where depression and all of these other things become worse and worse. And then we're going to pile on Zoloft and all these other drugs to you and see how your life goes then, you know, and you turn into a zombie it's just been crazy that these people, you know, want to limit the amount of THC when they are so over the top on giving you drugs that just screw you up so badly, mentally and physically beyond any high I've ever experienced. Eh, I over-ate on edibles once and I'd much rather do that than you know, no I'm going to live then have, you know, ever taken Wellbutrin or thought I needed Zoloft or Depakote, you know?

Kannaboom (32:32): Yeah. Yeah. My brother was on Depakote and it wasn't a good, a good drug to be taking for sure. Do you have a favorite strain or a couple of favorite strains that you like?

Kyle Turley (32:43): Yeah, no. The sativa strains is where I'm at. That's my department. Jack Herer has been unbelievably beneficial to me. That strain is magical, unbelievable resolutions and light sensitivity. If you've got any ocular issues, I believe the science speaks to sativas dealing with ocular issues better than indicas. And that's been my experience of light sensitivity from the minute I hit that strain just gone. I've had those strains tests. I've had Jack Herer, tested, super high in terpenes high in some CBD content, the terpene factors off the charts to other strains. So I, I really love, I believe firmly in what's going to be the future of terpenes alone from cannabis that are going to end specific strains. You know, that's a whole nother market that's going to be tapped into on the, you know, in the hybrid department XJ13 and keep it in, in Blue Dream. Those ones are still sativa dominant. Even my OGs and the indicas, I like are more sativa side SFVOG has got that sativa nature hybrid process in there, little bit of sativa dominant or not dominant, but it's in there. And you know so for me, it seems to be in that sativa department where, you know, my, my best function is had yet. I still enjoy taking dabs from hardcore fire OGs and other, you know, real sedate of stuff every now and then just to enjoy cannabis like the old days. And and as well to, you know, really induce sleep without having to take Rick Simpson oil or, you know, these other, you know, things and, and to also reset and recalibrate, I think, you know, and understanding this as a in the strains, you know, you, you, after you go for a certain length, it's always seems to me to be good to reset that, you know, you're a sativa person when I go to the shop and I buy my cannabis, I buy you know, my my sativas that I need for daily use. And then I always get a good Fire OG or some good indica pre-rolls or, you know, some of these killer awesome pre-rolls people are making out here dipped in kief and all that stuff, you know, just for those Saturday nights, Friday nights, you know cause I don't like to be high, you know, I'm, I'm very committed to my family, my, my, you know, pursuits and being functional and living life, you know, but I, I do enjoy, you know, every now and then every, every week, you know, Friday or Saturday or Sunday, I'm one of those nights, sometimes two nights in a row on the weekends, I'm resetting the calibration there to getting back to it, you come back to it, you know to your strains that really help you function and they work even better. So, you know, there's a great science to it, definitely. And for sure to understand it's all pretty all personal

Kannaboom (35:59): We talk about it a lot on the show where it's kind of a test and learn thing. I mean, we all have different genetics and some people are going to be highly functioning at one level and maybe someone else is not,

Kyle Turley (36:11): Well, I met tons of people that are just completely the reverse opposite, you know, and the sativas totally put him down and indicas, help them get going and go, you know, it's, it's all personal for sure.

Kannaboom (36:21): I mean, you're running businesses and you're, so you're not stoned all the time. You're, you're using it as a medicine that allows you to function.

Kyle Turley (36:30): 100%, you know, you have to, I, I think once you understand and get into understanding cannabis, that's, that's part of the, the hunt, you know, it's, it's, it's exciting for me, you know, to really find that balance and get that back. You know, especially as an athlete, who's really beat myself up and, you know, just ruined my body all the ability that it has to address the pain issues. So you stick with certain strains, but those ones have proven to be the ones that allow me to be more functional, more active. So for me, it's about tapping into that and continuing to fire these neurons and stay away from this progressive brain disease I got in CTE, you know, I've got to do that. So you know, I would love to be able to have all those other things, maybe be addressed like light sensitivity and you know, everything else. Sometimes I wish I was more on the indica side, you know, where I could tolerate that a bit more, you know, but cause sometimes those are a bit more fun and it is good to be high. You know, I love that side of cannabis. But I enjoy the euphoric side of functionality. I enjoy being able to go out on a golf course and be a better golfer that I've ever been on these sativas that to just allow you to focus and you know, sometimes it's not the best because you get going and in, you know, you, you go too far on conversations or too deep for other people's conversations. And so there's a balance there. That's why I like to float in there and have my strains and use them properly. When I go on a drive with my family, I only use XJ 13. I can't use Jack rare because Jack Herer makes me who I believe me, that's my strain. You know, everybody, I believe has a strain out there, Jack. Herer my strain. It makes me, me me mean meaning me from years ago who, when I was dead sober and living life a hundred miles an hour and young you know, cause I grew up, didn't drink, didn't smoke, didn't do nothing until I was, you know, I didn't touch cannabis until I was 22. You know, so it reminds me of me, pre needing medicines, needing painkillers needing... And my brain active, you know, is unbelievably clear and active. Not necessarily good when you've got two young kids and a wife and you're stuck in a car for hours. Right. So, you know, understanding how XJ13 allows that brings in that little hybrid factor, you know, of that indica that can, you know, let you not care about things. You know, that's, to me, I've been able to use these strains and mark them to the pharmaceuticals I use. Jack Herer for me is Depakote. Zoloft is XJ 13. You don't give a shit about nothing. I mean, you care, but you don't care. You know, it's not like your zombie is what Zoloft makes you a complete zombie, and not caring about anything, but I call it XJ 13, the Zoloft, or at least my Zoloft of, of weed, allows me to not care about anything. I unbelievably ride through anything that comes at me. He's an XJ 13 and just drive right through it. Man. Unbelievable can take, scenarios and situations where I would normally in me as a sober state or on Jack Herer be a little more edgy, I guess, or quick to, you know,usnap or say something or, you know, interject in anything,uto digesting, analyzing, giving a proper response that continues to allow the day to move functionally, you know, and, and what's worth my arguments versus not, you know, for me, that's, XJ 13. And then, you know, again, the, the, when you want to have a good time, you know, you get into those indicas for me and allow me to, have that. Cause I still don't drink to this day when my friends come over and, you know, they all drink or whatever.

Kannaboom (40:38): That's a level of self awareness, a lot of people lack, I think. But do you keep a journal or is it all in your head that you are aware of how each strain affects? You know, yeah,

Kyle Turley (40:49): No, I, I've definitely been doing some strain journaling over the years. I try to mark down all the things. I've got a great journal going of all of my personal strains, cause these are things I truly believe hold a great deal of benefit for my kids, for my future generations. Those that would have my same ailments. You know, I believe that if you, I was able to take this back in my football career, I would have never needed to take a pharmaceutical. So if my son has that opportunity and professional sports or my daughter continues to go down a road or anything happens and they got a traumatic brain injury, God forbid, you know, that if these elements pop up or their natural inherencies you know, some genetic thing that we have in our family is, is halted from that. My great, my grandfather died of ALS my, my other grandfather just died from dementia and Alzheimer's. I gave myself to the NFL for 10 years as a lineman, beating my brain around that. Doesn't, you know, I'm hoping to beat that. And those odds of ending up in a home here, faster than what my grandfather did and then staying away from ALS, like my other grandfather got and died from. So, you know, it's important. And I, I try to journal everything from all my strains to Rick Simpson, oil CBD, the differences and the effects on me personally, on how, you know, every one of these things have been uniquely beneficial to my body and here's the time to take it and what it can do for you and the benefit, you know, I do it all. I've got great journals and I encourage everybody to do that. Cause I think that's the future, of survival period, the future of your generations, your families, dealing with disease, dealing with that. My wife's been able to cure her skin cancer she had for the first 10 years of our now almost 20-year marriage. And for the last four years, she hasn't had them that she can't cure with a Rick Simpson oil on a bandaid in a matter of days, rather than go to the doctor for the first 10 years of our marriage, where she probably has holes in her skin cutting out skin cancers. And she doesn't have to do that no more, you know, to where is that going to lead to eliminating the potentials of breast cancer that her mother and her grandmother and everybody else had and all these other things down the road, you know, that we can pass on to our next generations. It's important. Y.

Kannaboom (43:17): Yeah, absolutely. Just being healthier without having to go under the knife or take a lot of pharmaceuticals. So tell us about your CBD brand.

Kyle Turley (43:26): Um well again, I started, you know, based on my experience personally how this just drove so much clarity and calm and control back into my life. So in understanding this I knew I had to find a proper source the best that I could find period, the best in the world. That was my hunt. And I ended up finding him guys in Colorado that were next level still are to this day. Um as far as our products are concerned and we maintain that I could have gone out and got super cheap isolate from all kinds of different countries and different places, but we are a one farm source group out of Colorado that is producing one of the most premium CBDs on the market. And it's real. I mean, it's something that's awesome. I can give to people and they can experience what CBD can do for them. You know, a lot of these things that they, you know, people when they come to me and they say I tried CBD and didn't do nothing for me. And it's like, 'Where did you get it? Like you got at a gas station?' Like, 'Yeah, it's picked up at the truck stop.' Like, 'Alright, well let me, let me have you try my CBD.' So, you know, you can, you know, use it and see like, Oh yeah, I'm like, well, it's not about my CBD. It's about the process. It's about the product itself. And it is truly CBD. That's all it is. You could make it in your yard. I'll give you the recipe if you want, but, or you can purchase it. What you think is at a truck stop. That's better than what I'm giving you, but it's not, okay. I'm just telling you, I've got CBD here, put it in your body every day, you're going to get better. And we did that, man, you know, at the most, again, the simplest way possible, put it in a bottle, get it out to as many people as possible, put it in as many ways as possible that are palatable to people and let it go. And we've created one of the best CBD companies, most reputable CBD companies in the business in our commitment and dedication to what it is we're trying to truly do with this. And that is to help people. And we've done that, man. We've sold millions of bottles of millions, of dollars worth of CBD across the country and in other countries as well that we can, you know, shipped successfully and make it through to the destination when people order from overseas. But we started about five, six years ago is my personal pursuit on it. When I saw the opportunity and I met with the guys down there at General Hemp and all these people, and I said, we need to get this to sports. And there was no sports line before what I originally created was Neuro Armor. And we've now changed and because of UnderArmor his insistence and power and money threatening of lawsuits to Neuro XPF. And you can go to Neuro XPF extreme performance field, Neuro XPF.com. And we've got a full line of CBD products that we continue to expand and ways that we see applicable to sports and you know, just continue to try and get the word out there to as many people as possible of the importance of putting this in your body every day.

Kannaboom (46:42): I know myself, I use topicals on my knees. When I, when I run, they're like a miracle, truly amazing. Shango is your dispensary.

Kyle Turley (46:52): I'm a partner in a, in one of the locations in my hometown in Moreno Valley, California. I'm out in the Valley about an hour and a half outside of LA. And I grew up in a small town known as the place where you go buy drugs. So I partnered with a group out of Las Vegas Shango and opened the first dispensary in Moreno Valley. My hometown and one of the very few out here in Southern California that are, that are legal and licensed. And you know there is a group that is across the country, so very well-skilled, I don't have to do anything, you know, not hands on as far as the business is concerned. And just brought it one of the best groups in the business that are operating to present what you know, people need to see in the light of cannabis you know, and how this can destroy all these stigmas. And the Shango group does the best job that I saw out there. And so like the CBD company, I went to them and said all right, you guys do this the best. Let me help you, you know, get into California. I did that. They're trying to expand their platform, you know, all over the state and hopefully that happens. But I'm just a minor partner. I really have no voice in any of it. And just did what I could getting into the city and, you know, sitting in council meetings and trying to do my best to help you know, push it through. We lost in the, in the, in the, in immediate unleashing of licensing, we lost to a lottery you know, really worked hard with the mayor and the city council to understand the importance of operators that they should be having, you know, represent this for their city. Um and we ended up getting a resolution on that and one licensing and they were able to push our license through with everybody else that applied and was approved. And we were the first to open, so I'm proud of that. And you know, but I work with the number of groups. I work with the doctors green thumb group with be real, and those guys I work with so many other guys in this industry to try and help, you know, that's all I'm trying to do is I've, I've helped people start competitive CBD brands just cause it's important to me that, you know, they don't live where I live. So I, you know, and I don't have a counselor. They are so they can go out and spread CBD all over their town, you know it's important for me that this gets out everywhere and anywhere to just drop all these ridiculous things against it.

Kannaboom (49:35): Thank you for being an outspoken advocate and really using your notoriety in a way that's going to help millions of people. I want to thank you for taking the time. Is there anything we haven't discussed that we should?

Kyle Turley (49:44): I don't know, man. Yeah. Who knows? There's always room for more. And we're in crazy times that continue to develop more.

Kannaboom (49:53): Where should we look for you online? Are you at Twitter?

Kyle Turley (49:56): Yeah. Twitter, Instagram, Kyle Turley, or Kyle underscore Turley. I can't remember which ones, which yeah, just punch it in Kyle Turley and you'll, you'll bring it up and on YouTube lots of different content there, go check it out. From all the music in my run in Nashville, still trying to do that, hoping to get another record cut this year and you know, get back to it. Hopefully the country opens up and starts playing some shows again and just continues to move forward, you know, and always progressing growth in my cannabis ventures and coach and football still on the youth level, helping these guys try to make that dream happen and you know, everything else is good, man. I appreciate the time and opportunity to you know, share with your audience. Thank you so much.

Kannaboom (50:48): Thank you. And hey, do you think we see a full NFL season this year?

Kyle Turley (50:53): I'm not sure, man, the weirdness going on around pro sports right now and the direction that they're going is quite questionable, you know, as to whether or not we are, you know, because we're not done and we're just getting ramped up here for the next flu season. I mean, football runs right in the middle of it. I, you know, for my entire career, they made me get the flu shot every year. Otherwise, if I got sick and didn't take it, they'd fine me if I missed any practice or game time. So I took the flu shot every year. I got sick every year and had to play games sick every year, pushing IVs into my system before, middle of games, after games, you know near death, you know, stepping out there to play this game. And I just don't see that happening from these guys anymore. You know, the, the, the new league, the new PR direction they're taking from the players union, who, you know, they're crying about all this social justice right now, yet they took away social security, benefits, disability benefits from their own players, which is 90% black to taking away our opportunities at workman's compensation benefits. The, these, these guys in this new era of sports day really are uninformed and do not truly care. So I don't see them using football like we did after 9/11, where we made a statement, we didn't play the one game as a statement. And then we got back to work as Americans and showed people how to be Americans together and fight through this as a team and in unity. And I just see unbelievable division right now. And it's unfortunate.

Kannaboom (52:36): Yeah. Well said, well, thank you very much for taking the time. I know our audience is gonna love this, and we'll definitely be looking up your CBD brand, Neuro XPF and stopping in Shango the next time I go through Moreno Valley.

Kyle Turley (52:49): Well, I appreciate it, brother. Thank you so much for having me and all your folks listening out there. Awesome. Take care.

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