55 | Dan LaMorte, Comedian and Runner

“I definitely perform stoned. It’s not rare for me… I do a good amount of weed jokes, but I also do try to make it known that I’m not a stoner comedian. I’m a comedian who happens to be stoned. I love joking about weed, but I don’t like the stigma that comes with being like a stoner comic.”

— Dan LaMorte

Is cannabis a performance enhancer? It can be an aid to creativity, and can definitely help your endurance, says New Jersey stand-up comic Dan LaMorte. He’s often high on stage, and almost every day, he smokes a joint before running, often 10 to 12 miles or more.  A former college baseball pitcher,  Dan is glad to be an athlete again, and has found that cannabis helps him get in the zone, for both comedy and running. Listen and learn:

  • How Dan lost 170 pounds — and still eats Sweet Tarts as often as he can
  • Why trail-running is a transcendent activity
  • How his NCAA athletic career ended just as he was getting started
  • Why Dan’s comedy heroes include Mitch Hedberg and Greg Giraldo
  • How he became the youngest comic at New York’s Comedy Cellar
  • A winning product suggestion for Honey Stingers

Kannaboom Podcast Interview with Dan LaMorte

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Kannaboom (00:00): Today's guest is doing his part, one step at a time, to put the final nail in the coffin of the lazy stoner stereotype. Dan LaMorte is a man on the move. He's a working comic and a distance runner training for his first ultra marathon. And you know what he does before and after most of his 10 to 20 mile training runs? Mokes a joint. Dan takes the runner's high quite literally. And we talk about how cannabis helps them get in the zone for pounding out those miles, comedy in the age of COVID, that time in grade school, when he dressed up as an elf and a lot more. This podcast, my website Kannaboom (with a k) dot com and my weekly newsletter, 5 Boom Friday are all focused on how cannabis and CBD can help you achieve better wellness and how to find CBD that's trusted and reliable. You can subscribe to this podcast at Apple podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoy the show, please leave a review and help us expand our reach. Thanks to our producer, Danny and Milwaukee. And here now is Dan Lamorte.

Kannaboom (00:57): Cannabis is booming and Kannaboom is on it. Welcome to the cannabis podcast where we interview experts on the changing story of humans, health and hemp from San Diego. Here's your host, Tom Stacey. It's Tom we're back

Kannaboom (01:10): This week we have Dan LaMorte, a comedian from New Jersey who is also known as a runner who likes to get high. So he's given a new wrinkle to the runner's high. So how are you doing Dan?

Dan LaMorte (01:18): Good. Thanks for having me. Yeah, that's for sure. I'm known for saying the best way to get the runner's high is to be a runner that's high. And I live by that.

Kannaboom (01:28): That's so funny because I have been running for decades and they used to talk about endorphins and those were these chemicals in your brain, but the research has shown it's more related to cannabinoids, your endogenous cannabinoids and anandamide and all that.

Dan LaMorte (01:44): So you run stoned as well?

Kannaboom (01:47): Back in the day. Sure. Yeah, these days, not, not quite as much, but so you're putting some miles in.

Dan LaMorte (01:52): Yeah, I'm at about a 60 mile weeks right now. Uh I do eventually want to get that up to a hundred mile weeks, but, and then beyond that, but right now it's just because I'm training race specific. My first ultra marathon, October 10th, which is a 33 mile race through a sand trail and the pine barrens of New Jersey. So that's kinda what I'm prepping for right now. And I feel like at 33 mile race, you know, 60 to 70 miles a week is pretty acceptable for that. Sure. I'm kind of staying in there. And yeah, so it kinda running stoned for me is I wouldn't say I'm high for all of the runs because I am an endurance runner. So a lot of these runs when I'm going out are, you know, above 15 miles above 10 miles and outside, if I go out, the least is eight miles. So I'm only smoking a joint before I go out and run. So my routine is kind of the night before I'll roll my roll, a nice big gram and a half cone for the next morning. And then I'll wake up. And whenever, whether it's me I'm usually driving to running trails. So say when I'm around 10 minutes away, I'll light up the joint. Cause it takes about 10 minutes to get down. So right when I get to the run, I have no other choice, but to get out and just start running, you know,

Kannaboom (03:02): You know, you talk about couch lock, which becomes a problem. But if you're out there, you're already out there and you're ready to run, you don't have much choice. Right.

Dan LaMorte (03:09): That is what I've found yet. Cause don't get me wrong. I mean I think the reason people associate, you know, the lazy stoner is because we just help you do whatever you want to do in that moment. So if you want to relax and you're smoking to relax, you're gonna melt into that couch and you're going to look like the lazy stoner. But if you're telling yourself, 'Hey, this weed is propelling the first four or five miles of my run,' now it takes on a different meeting. You know, that it becomes something that actually, it's kind of like a pre-workout for me, I feel like those first four or five miles are really something else while I'm stoned, you know, just, scenery's a little prettier, the joints feel a little looser. It's good. Cause those first few miles you're supposed to just kind of ease into the run. So your body's kind of just feeling it all. And then I smoke one after. I don't do any mid run. I, you know, whatever I have are stoned, I am to go out. That's what I stay at. And then when I get home from the run I smoke on, cause I do actually feel, it helps a lot with the inflammation and it helps a lot with my knee pain. It puts me in a good mood, kind of for the rest of the day to not feel as much of the brunt on the joints.

Kannaboom (04:14): If you're putting in 60 miles a week. Yeah. You have some recovery for sure. I did a few marathons and I maxed out at about 65 a week. And boy, when you hit the pillow after 20 miler, it's a delicious kind of sleep. You're just, it's lights out.

Dan LaMorte (04:29): It is. And it's weird. I still find myself taking like NyQuil some nights and Advil PM. Cause I am a tough sleeper, but it's like, I dunno if it's habit at this point because there are some nights I feel like I can just hit the pillow and go right out. Then there are some nights I still, you know what the problem is. There are some nights I lay in bed and I have such an obsessive mind that I'll just think about running a part of me will want to put on my running shoes and go out and I'll think about my race coming up. I'll think about what it feels like to cross the finish line. And next thing you know, it's four or five in the morning. I'm not able to get any sleep. And I have every, every day it's a 7:00 AM alarm. Even through the pandemic. I felt like if anything, it's more necessary. I, even though I don't have work anymore, it's kind of just set the alarm for 7:00 AM, get up and do it anyway. Wow.

Kannaboom (05:14): So you aimed pretty high. You didn't start with a 10 K or a half marathon. You went straight to the ultra.

Dan LaMorte (05:20): Yeah. I call it stupidity or just getting a little into a David Goggins who was a podcast guest. I had heard on a podcast called the Rich Roll Podcast, who is this incredible Navy Seal who went on to become one of the greatest ultra runners and his first race ever was an ultra marathon. And I don't know if that kind of influenced me or if in my head I was kind of like, I really am always an all in or that's it. And what's more all in than, you know, crazy distances.

Kannaboom (05:47): Sure. I've seen that dude. He's always running. There's just a lot of video of him running.

Dan LaMorte (05:52): He is insane. There was one point of his life where eight weekends in a row, he ran eight 100-mile races. And like in a hundred mile race, enough to usually put some of the most talented runners out for six months, they won't run for another six months. He did it eight weekends in a row and he wasn't stoned for any of it that blows my mind.

Kannaboom (06:09): That's incredible. He's, he's made of something. You know, when I was doing marathons that last six miles was always brutal. You know, that's when you're getting like electrical impulses down your arm and you're, you're hitting the wall for sure. I don't envy that another eight miles on top of that or 33, you said, so that's another seven on top of the marathon.

Dan LaMorte (06:31): Yeah, this one and that's kind of another, one of the interesting things for me, because I feel like a lot of marathoners to go into ultra marathons. They have this weird moment of their race, where they hit that marathon mile and in their head, they're like, 'Fuck, I've got to keep going.' But if you've never run a marathon before, you're not going to have that ceiling, you're not going to feel like I just hit that marathon. Cause you've never hit that. You know, you've never been in a race where you've hit that only in training. I mean, I do have my first 30 mile training run at the end of this month just to kind of put myself at ultra distance 30 miles, make sure it's all good to go. And then I'm going to take it down for the next month. And August 31st, October 10th, I'll take it down. Mileage only goes to 40, 50 a week. Just need to bring myself in pretty good shape to the race.

Kannaboom (07:13): You've lost a lot of weight in this process

Dan LaMorte (07:16): I have in the past year and a half I've lost. Now I would say I got down to 183 pounds. So that was, I lost 170 pounds. My highest was 354. That was what that was, I would say two years ago when I was 23, I'm 25. Now when I was 23, I'd let my weight get up to about 354 pounds. And yeah, I've taken it down since then. It wasn't always running, running is, I would say, started this past winter. That was for me when I started really getting into it, it was diet change at first more than anything giving up gluten, which is not very exciting. It's not like giving up gluten isn't as flashy as endurance running.

Kannaboom (07:55): What's your diet like now you can probably eat anything.

Dan LaMorte (07:58): Yeah. So my diet now is I've actually, I found myself having really bad stomach issues again, which is why I gave up the gluten. It was, the doctor told me I might have celiac disease. This was two years ago. So I gave up the gluten for an extended period of time. And then when I started getting up to 50 mile weeks, you know, two months ago or so I found my body really not doing that well. And it's cause I was still only eating one meal a day. I wasn't taking proper nutrition and I called up a doctor and I was like, 'Hey, all this stuff's going on with my stomach again, what's up?' And he's like, 'Well, what's changed?' Then I'm like, 'Well, I'm running 50 miles a week.' He's like, 'Well, what supplements are you taking? What vitamins, what's your diet like?' And I told him, 'No vitamins, no supplements, and I'm eating like one meal a day,' And he's like, 'Well, there's your answer right there. You know, you gotta severely jack up your sodium intake, your food intake.' So now I really don't care what I eat anymore. I love candy. I've always loved candy. That's my — people are like, how do you, how have you lost weight with the munchies? You know? Cause they know I'm very vocal about how stoned I am and how often it is. And I'm like, 'I never did give it up. You know, I just worked out harder to be able to eat three packs of Sweet Tarts a day if I want it.

Kannaboom (09:03): Well, you're definitely burning some calories. I mean, when I was into it, the last weeks of marathon training, the weight would just fall away and I would even have night sweats. I'd wake up, just soaked in sweat. Because my metabolism I think was going overtime.

Dan LaMorte (09:17): Yeah. I weigh myself before every run and after every run and I kind of adjust accordingly to how much liquids are then I have to put in, I kind of try to end each night the same way when I woke up to make sure I don't lose anything. Like I'm, I'm no longer at a point of my life where I'm really wanting to lose weight anymore. I've kind of gained about seven pounds. I'm sitting at about 190 now and I'm fine. And that's where my body's kind of staying with, having to put so much liquids in cause the New Jersey summers get pretty brutal. Sure. Running. I mean, it's not rare for me to lose anywhere from, you know, eight to 11 pounds on a run.

Kannaboom (09:48): Water weight obviously, but you top it off when you get back, like you said. Have you ever tried edibles?

Dan LaMorte (09:53): When you're running? You know, I haven't done it yet because what scares me with edibles — and I'm very much, I'm a regular edible consumer outside of athletics — is the unpredictability of it. You know, there are some times where I've, I've taken the same brand of edible twice and the way it hits me the second time, isn't even the same way it hits me the first time. So I kind of feel like if I get to a brand that I trust a bit more where I feel like the reaction is pretty similar, I think I'd test it out. But for right now, joints are really what works best for me, which weirdly probably isn't the best thing. Cause of smoking on the lungs. You know, I smoke three, four joints a day. That's not the best for the lungs.

Kannaboom (10:35): Right. That would concern me a little. And then also with an edible, it just takes longer. You know, you might be a half hour into the run or you take it sooner, but it does last longer too. Yeah.

Dan LaMorte (10:46): Yeah. I had a, I had the Belgian chocolate bar that was 400 milligrams. I've gotten two of them since. So I have three of them, each of them. I mean, don't get me wrong. The highs are very intense. I don't eat them all in one shot. Me and my girlfriend, the first time we took it, we made the mistake of eating a hundred milligrams each, which is a very normal number for us, anywhere from a hundred to 250. But this particular chocolate was very strong. We went out with a sober couple. So we take this edible. We're like, 'Let's call our friends, make them come get dinner with us.' We sit down and she gets hit with it really bad. Like one of those edible, you know, one of those edible highs you could tell she's going to not have a great night. And that's scary because she has the same tolerance as I do. So I know it's coming for me. I joke that it was like watching someone get hit with the same car. You're about to get hit by. I, at one point I literally turned to the other couple and I was like, 'Are you guys not feeling the wind on your eyelashes right now?' And then lo and behold, I got hit with it and it turned really bad and we ended up getting home, but then I took it down to 50 milligrams, 50-milligram pieces. And when we did that the high was pretty good. So I think if there was one I'm going to try, it would be that chocolate.

Kannaboom (12:02): I like Kanha, a really good brand there. They come in a little 10 milligram gummies that sometimes I split those in half when I'm going to sleep. So you're way above me in terms of milligrams. But you know, I would experiment with that because your lungs, I notice, I don't like to inhale the soot and ash of a joint too much anymore. I do some dry vaping and that's kind of gentle and not as intense, but you know, the edibles might work for you too. Do you use any CBD, any balms or anything?

Dan LaMorte (12:33): I don't. I'd been sent a few from companies and I've never actually tried it. My mother out at one point I was sent one from a brand and my mom took it from me and she really enjoyed it from what I heard. I don't use any myself. I'm very much ah — just ice. That's it, I ice my knee a lot, all day. I have to run. I should try. I've thought about CBD balms. I just, you know, it's one of those things like there's so many, when you get into distance running, there's so many things that are on that checklist. You know, like just going to run every day, the amount of liquids I have to bring with me, my water vest, my handheld bottle. And it's like, there's so many things that are now getting caught. It's so expensive to be athletic.

Kannaboom (13:13): Yeah. It's harder and harder to get out the door.

Dan LaMorte (13:15): I hate that. You know what really pisses me off about running is the running shoes. They all, you'd think they'd invent shoes by now that have a longer life than 350, 400 miles, you should pay me to hit 400 miles. I'm running 400 miles in a month. You'd give me a free pair of shoes.

Kannaboom (13:29): Right? What are you wearing? What do you like?

Dan LaMorte (13:33): Right now I'm really on a Hoka kick. I love them.

Kannaboom (13:37): I tried them this year and I like them a lot.

Dan LaMorte (13:39): Me too. They feel like you're floating their cushy bottom. That they're really good for trail running because trail running has really been something that I've fallen in love with kinda the overall, just there's something free about it, especially when you're stoned, but the trail running to me, I'm not a very religious person, but it is the most spiritual I've ever felt in my life. Cause you have this angelic and very serene environment like nature, that, that, that if there is a higher power it's been put here by whatever that power is, you know, it's this beautiful thing. And then you're doing this masochistic long distance running, breaking your body, in nature alone. It kind of feels like some weird human sacrifice... Hokas, yeah. I don't know where I got from Hokas to that. But Hokas and Mizuno. I always run between two different pairs.

Kannaboom (14:28): Yeah. I ran in the woods up in Michigan, in college. I worked on Mackinac Island. There were no cars allowed and there was an eight mile perimeter path, which was great. But then you could get up in the Island up the hills and be in the woods and yeah, like you described it's, you know, the Japanese call it forest bathing. There is something almost sacred about it. You're just moving fast and under your own power. And there was nobody else out there. And it's really great.

Dan LaMorte (14:54): And it's ruthless. It's unreal. Like I've fallen many times, no trail running is, people don't realize it's not just running forward. It's a lot of falling. It's a lot of miss... You know, you have to figure out, you have to plan. I tell people, you gotta plan 10 steps ahead. You know, I look at it to see where's this route, where's this rock, you know, what am I going to propel off them? Is this a rock I could use to move forward? Or is this a rock that's going to roll my ankle if I jump on it. So it's like this really interesting thing where you have to be so in the moment and even looking forward a bit, but then you also have to be present with your breathing. Weed, to me working with it, it's just, it seems a bit more natural for me. Cause you know, weed comes from the ground. That's this natural thing. It just feels like nature's pre-workout, it's very interesting. I never thought it would have the ability to propel workouts the way it did. Cause I was a lazy stoner for so long.

Kannaboom (15:44): There's a race up in the Bay area called the Dipsea. And there was an old movie from probably the seventies with Bruce Dern. This race is a real thing. You got to be in a lottery to even get in. And it's really hard to get in, but it's super treacherous. People break their legs and fall down cliffs and stuff. The old timers win. Cause they have some knowledge of the course, I guess. I don't know you're right. I mean you can always hit a root. You can get lost. I mean, there's, there's a lot of danger running through the woods and nowadays there's a, a path here, but it's, there's too many people in the age of COVID. I don't want to sneak up behind somebody and be breathing heavily. And I'm so I'm kind of on the streets and running the hills right now. Yeah. I miss the woods.

Dan LaMorte (16:27): I did a short run today cause I got to my town in New Jersey. I got hit by a hurricane yesterday. So I went to my favorite trail today. It's called Clayton Park. It's a four mile loop it's got about in those four miles. You get about a thousand feet of elevation gain. It's pretty brutal. All roots, a lot of trees. And I went there this morning and it was destroyed. I mean there, I took about maybe 20 steps and it was just, the trees were too big. You couldn't even get a run. So I just, I was in this weird moment where I'd already, this, this specific trail is 30 minutes from my house. Like I said earlier, the joint gets smoked 10 minutes before I get to the location. So now I'm standing at the Trailhead. I need to do eight miles of recovery run and I'm like, 'Fuck, should I go home? Or, but I'm like, then you're going to waste the high.' So I just slapped on my hat, my handheld bottle and just went on the road in front of the trail and just ran, you know, eight miles around that town. Cause I was like, I'm not gonna waste this high, you know, corona times have me really been, this is the scarcest I've ever been with marijuana. I'm nugg to nugg, at this point.

Kannaboom (17:31): You were an athlete before this, you were a baseball player, right?

Dan LaMorte (17:33): I was, that was a, that actually had a large, I think that is why I've been able to jump so heavy into running because when I played baseball, I was a pitcher and pitching and running very much go hand in hand for the control of lactic acid through your body. After you, you have to start, you're supposed to run like my coach, I had a coach that said, I threw six innings, and he'd make me run, you know, three miles the next day or six miles, whatever it was, you know, usually half or the full amount of how many innings you've pitched. I played up until college. I had a few scholarships and I blew up my arm. My, my, my true first game, like opening day of the NCAA season of, I guess it would be 2014. I blew out my arm as a true freshman.

Kannaboom (18:18): That kind of classic throwing your arm out the way it happens.

Dan LaMorte (18:22): Yeah, I guess so. I mean, it was, I think it was my second inning of work. I threw a change up in the dirt and I heard like very much, they don't lie. You hear the popping of your arm. I heard my arm explode. And I kind of knew in that moment, something was wrong. I'd been playing baseball since I was, you know, since I could speak, as long, there are pictures of me holding a bat at T ball, as, you know, four year old and I kinda knew something was wrong. And I woke up the next morning and my arm was really swollen. I got an MRI and my UCL, your ulnar collateral ligament was a hundred percent torn off the bone. So I had to get Tommy John surgery, which is an elbow reconstruction. They took me specifically, they took a part of my right hamstring and drilled three holes in my elbow and tied it back in to replace the tendon. But I was never able to come back from it. A lot of there's like a 75% success rate. I was not in that percentage.

Kannaboom (19:16): You have enough function in your daily life, you're just not able to throw a fastball anymore.

Dan LaMorte (19:22): Not able to throw a fast ball anymore. There is definitely, you know, it's been, like I said, I'm 25 now I got hurt when I was 18. So it's like, if you've had the same pain for seven years, it's like, is the pain gone or have you just adapted to it? That's where I think I am with it. Like there are certain moments where I could really focus on it and I'm like, 'Oh no, this still hurts on a daily basis.' But then there are other moments where you kind of just forget about it. I will say being an athlete again. My body does feel overall better. I don't notice as much arm pain as I did when I was immobile and not running

Kannaboom (19:54): And losing all that weight that had to be a stress on your body as well.

Dan LaMorte (19:58): I think people realize the stress that that weight puts on you. I mean, it's when I come to think of it, it's like it's I would have an extra 170 pounds on my midsection and I would go to tie my shoes, like what that does to your back, what that does to your spine when you have, when it has to, like, it's hard to describe like your gut. When you go to bend over to tie, your shoes would really make your spine crooked. I was starting to get abnormalities back there because my body was no longer in a way, or it was functioning properly. You know there's too much fat in the way.

Kannaboom (20:31): It's a big change to lose that much weight you're doing. It sounds like you're maintaining and running will definitely keep the weight down.

Dan LaMorte (20:38): I had to find the balance. You know, I had to find the balance between athletics, but also still making sure I could be a kid who enjoyed candy much as I do and, and weed and not really take away rewarding yourself along the way is really such a big thing. You know, I always joke that the guy at the gas station around my house, which is where I go and buy candy every day. He must think I'm the strangest dude in the world because he saw me coming and buying candy at 350 pounds. And then he just saw me over the past year and a half still come in and lose 170 pounds while eating the same amount of candy. He's like, he's probably wondering what the heck diet is this guy on. He's still, you know, that candy. So there are times where I'll buy all the Sweet Tarts there. And I'll be the one who has to open the box underneath it, of Sweet Tarts. I think I'm the only one that buys Sweet Tarts.

Kannaboom (21:26): When you're putting in 60 or 70 miles a week, you can eat ice cream cake, whatever you want.

Dan LaMorte (21:31): Yeah. And the feeling of not feeling guilty is incredible because so much when, when you're 350 pounds eating that stuff, there is guilt and shame. I remember when I was still, when I was, you know, living with my parents and I was eating like that, I would, you know, they'd be to bed before me. I'd get all this food at night. I would go to the garbage can and I would put my hand in it and make sure I put the garbage of this food, you know, three layers underneath the garbage. Cause they didn't want anyone to see what I did the night before. Now I could care less. You know, cause people know I'm running 60, 70 miles who cares what you're eating, it's fuel, everything's fuel at this point.

Kannaboom (22:06): Is there something about running though? It's almost like self-flagellation, it's you get into that mental toughness and a guy like David Goggins, how can he make himself do that? But you do become acquainted with pain. And for me being able to kind of compartmentalize it and say, okay, that's pain, but I'm running. I'm going to keep running as hard as I can, have you learned about that?

Dan LaMorte (22:26): Yeah. Pain, pain. I think that I forgot what the saying is: it's one of the guys who Ken Klobuchar, who is the creator of the Leadville 100 one of the toughest ultra marathons. He said, 'Make friends with pain and you'll never hurt a day in your life.' Goggins has this similar saying where he's like the, you know, 'I pushed to the other side of pain and what I've found on that other side was just pure beauty.' And there is truth to that. On the other side of pain is a world of imagination that I didn't know existed. You know, I, I remember when I, when I heard Goggins, I that's, when I started diving into this world of ultra running and it piqued my interest because anytime you hear of a community of people pushing themselves beyond physical limits, you're like, let me, let me dive a bit more into this. And I would watch these documentaries of ultra runners and all of them, whether they were first place or finishing 30th 40th, when they hit that finish line, a high majority of them were in tears, not upset, you know, very ha. And, and that is what struck out to me where I was like, there's this, this thing that these people are accomplishing and it's moving them to tears. So that, that is worth exploring for me. I'm like, this must be a very powerful,

Kannaboom (23:34): That happened to me after Boston. I ran it and there was just no controlling it. I just, I could not.

Dan LaMorte (23:40): You ran the Boston?

Kannaboom (23:41): I did. Yeah, I did it twice.

Dan LaMorte (23:43): That's incredible.

Kannaboom (23:44): It's the whole thing about the pain is what's possible. When you start out, you can't possibly cover that ground in that time, but as you work at it, you're physiologically changing. What's possible for your body. And that in itself is very instructive and very gratifying. I find.

Dan LaMorte (24:00): Yeah. And so much of it is just tricking your mind or just pushing a bit harder. I remember I was already into running before I had learned of David Goggins. I was already a runner at that point, but people were telling me, you got to listen to this guy. You've got to listen to this guy. So I remember one morning it was cold. I would run the boardwalk in New Jersey in the winter. Cause it was a, it was a bit extra cold and windy down there. It really whipped me in the face and I'm, and I was supposed to do the most I was doing at that time was three, four mile runs. And I listened to Goggins for the first time that morning and I'm blown away. You know, I set my alarm for 6:00 AM. The first two hours of the day are spent driving and listening to him on the way to the beach. And I'm invested. I'm like this, guy's got the key. He knows how to push. So at this point I'm running with just sweatshirt shorts and I would hold my water bottle. I didn't have any gear at the time. It's maybe 20 degrees out. I dropped the water bottle. I would say less than a mile into the run, maybe 10 steps. And it hits off the boardwalk rolls onto the beach and goes away. I have no chance of getting this water bottle. So now I'm in this motor. I'm like, I'm not going to be able to get through these four miles, but something snapped in my head. And that day, without any hydration, I ran a half marathon without ever going longer than, you know, four miles, five miles in my life. And it was in that moment where I was like, okay, he was onto something. We are capable of a lot more than we know. And that's when something really snapped in me where I was like, I'm not even in top shape right now. And I just pulled this off. So what could happen if I put some training put in.

Kannaboom (25:34): Right? You obviously transformed your body and you can transform your, your mind and your will as well. I got a lot out of it. I just turned 60 and I'm still running and the knees are holding up and.

Dan LaMorte (25:45): You look damn good.

Kannaboom (25:47): Thanks. I mean, you can deny through your forties that you've lost a step. I mean, I would go to races and still kind of place pretty well in my age group. Now it's always possible because there's few, few guys in my age group, even running. So if you show up, you're in contention and you know, I still get a lot out of it. It's definitely possible to overdo. I mean, you've seen runners who are just too tight when you're putting in 60, 70 miles. Yoga might be a good thing to just do some counter stretches and all that.

Dan LaMorte (26:16): Oh yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. Like people have to really, you got to take care of yourself. I'm at the chiropractor two times a week. You know, you have to find yourself a chiropractor who one you could become friends with who gives you some good deals and two, understands how hard you want to push. You don't want a doctor's going to tell you, no, you want to find a doctor. Who's going to tell you, okay. And this is how I'm going to get you there. And you know, my guy I'm with him two days a week. And whether it's, he's got some of these new laser treatments on the knee massaging, it's a world of difference. And working in swimming has really been something cool for me. What I do is I kind of, sometimes I'll just smoke and I'll go in the pool, I'll do some laps, but then I'll also float there and kind of do like bicycle kicks in the pool to just propel myself to the top of the water and just work out the joints. I feel like when you're in the water, you could really feel where the pain is centralized in your legs. You can kind of work on that a bit. Yeah.

Kannaboom (27:09): I blew out the IT band and that set me back, but I put a vest on and got in the water and just ran. And that resistance was great. You're not getting the pounding, but you're getting the resistance. So, you're a working comic. And right now I feel like people need to laugh more than ever, you know, we're still in lockdown. So how does that work for you? Are you able to get out and work or are you doing different things? Are you doing Zoom or?

Dan LaMorte (27:33): Yeah. So my place in New Jersey is it's quite great cause I'm in central New Jersey. And the town is called Manalapan then some about on a good day, an hour drive from Manhattan. My girlfriend lives in Astoria Queens. So a lot of my time is spent living in the city. New York has come back a bit to outdoor shows. You know, we're not anywhere near indoor clubs. We have a lot of shows right now in parks. A lot of the parks allow standing at that. But one club specifically Stand Up New York, kind of has monopolized a few of the parks and they're running shows, you know, paid spots. It's like you're doing a spot at the club, except it's in a park. That's been fun. We've had a lot of rooftop shows. There's some venues that have opened up their roofs to do stand up on. And it's kind of a lot of comics. It's this weird thing because right, if you were to talk to me eight months ago, I would tell you outdoor comedy is the worst type of comedy show that exists. It really was. I mean, if you had an outdoor gig, you weren't looking forward to it. Laughter dies in the air. Laughter laughter does need walls to bounce off. You do need a good sound system. You do need people sitting down comfortable drinks, outdoor shows where at least everything. Now it's kind of this very, it feels kind of Woodstock. He almost, you know, you're performing on lawns for groups of people. I personally am loving it. I, it, people want to laugh. They don't necessarily want to hear about Coronavirus. They just want to hear jokes. And it just feels more intimate. Standup already felt intimate to me, but now it feels even more intimate. Like campfire stories found that you're just all outside in a park. It's tough. Don't get me wrong. You're getting heckled by trains, car horns, and a guy selling, just walking in front of me in the park, selling hand mixed margaritas as if I wasn't doing standup. Some states though have opened it up. Like I just got an email today from one of the clubs that work a lot in Chicago. And they're like, Hey, how would you feel about coming back in September, October? We're at 50% capacity indoor shows, you know? So it's like, it's this weird thing where there's enough there to make you feel like standup still here, but not enough to make you forget about the past and how much did exist. I mean, this still isn't a normal for this is very weird to find that financially the money hasn't been there, you know, cause private gigs where you made a lot of money and privates aren't existing right now. Uh I that's, first of all, I've gotten so into running. Cause I, I feel right now there, there's more of an avenue for me to let my voice be heard and, and have financial rewards in that field, in the motivation field, the inspiration field. Cause comedy just isn't here right now. I think people, what I've learned through all this is, I mean, people need laughter, but I also, there's a, there's an interesting feeling to every week, know there's messages coming in from people, you know, their scale saying, 'Dude, you're literally the reason I started this,' you know, I, I started running because you haven't run in 15 years and I'm like, all right, this is a feeling too that I want to explore. I love this idea that people are making changes because of small things that I've done. And I've never posted my workouts online to, to brag. It's always, self-accountability, you know, it's a reason I get up and do it. And I know because people are looking forward to it.

Kannaboom (30:38): Well, there are ways to share that now. I mean, do you use a Strava or any of those apps to track you?

Dan LaMorte (30:43): I track my runs with Strava. I just started using it. I would say maybe last week or two weeks ago I was using just like Run Tracker. That enough people were like, you gotta get on Strava man. So I was like, all right, I'll get on Strava.

Kannaboom (30:54): Yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, I didn't have that years ago, I just had a Jim Fixx Runner's Log. And if I drove the route, then I could look at my Ironman watch and figure my per mile pace. But now you have so much data. You can have the heart monitor and all that stuff.

Dan LaMorte (31:09): Yeah, I've never done any of that. I still don't have a nice running watch. I mean, I need to invest in that because I take a Nathan handheld bottle and then I take my phone out of its case and just put it in the little pouch on the bottle. But I'm not even lying. My iPhone sucks and is holding a charge now because of how wet it gets in there. I've taken it through, you know, I run through storms, I've taken it out in the water with my own sweat, getting in there. My iPhone just isn't working the same. But then you go and you look at these Garmins and they're like 200, $300.

Kannaboom (31:40): Yeah. I tried a Samsung and I sent it back and it kept telling me to get up and move and I just couldn't handle that.

Dan LaMorte (31:48): I wouldn't be able to handle it. I'd be like, please shut up. I'll move when I want to.

Kannaboom (31:52): I don't know if you're at a crossroads there, if there's a way to combine comedy and being an inspirational running figure.

Dan LaMorte (31:58): Oh yeah. I mean, I think it's not even so much of a crossroads, it's just, it's an adaptation. You know, I'll find a way to include both because at the end of the day, I know that I'll be doing standups. So the day that I die and I've been doing it since I was a teenager, it is the one thing that I've loved more than anything. I'll never go away from standup. It's just a matter of, is there another, I do this all under the umbrella of comedy. You know, if I could get runners on my fan base, then that's more people who are here to see your comedy. You know, last year I had a lot of stoners come on board cause I would post more weed jokes. Now I have people coming on board because the weight loss and running, it's like to me, it's not really about one field. The other it's just about the overall umbrella. You know, it's just people becoming aware of whatever body of work you're doing. If they want to like me for my weight loss, my comedy just it's. I do it all. You know, it's like a Jesse Itzler says building the life resume. And that's what I feel like I'm doing. I'm just adding things to the life resume at this point.

Kannaboom (32:56): That's part of comedy is your identity, right? I mean, most of the comics we think of, there's some idea of them we have in mind, a lot of times it's racial or whatever it is. Maybe you have a niche there.

Dan LaMorte (33:09): Yeah. The cool thing about doing standup now, as you know, I don't want to toot my own horn, but as someone who's now like an attractive young person, when instead of a 350 pound weird looking fella, it's a completely new world. You know what I feel like I'm starting over again, not in terms of creativity or how funny I am or where I am, but it feels like I'm doing standup as a new person. You know, when it doesn't feel like I'm doing comedy as the same person anymore, which has really been fun to see because it's like a new project. It's, it's how I, it's easy to make being fat funny. But how do you make being an ultra runner funny?

Kannaboom (33:49): Was that part of your act before poking fun at yourself for your size?

Dan LaMorte (33:54): I wouldn't say that I was a comic who relied heavily on fat material, but it was something that I had, you know, it was like any elephant in the room where it was just easy to address. You know, I feel like if you go up there and you're fat and you don't talk, you don't mention that you're fat people are like, does this guy not know he's fat? So you would, you would bring it up from time to time. But I don't, I think when the weight loss really started to happen was I wrote down my act. There's a lot of the reason I was putting off losing weight because I would tell myself it's easier to be a fat comic, which there's a lot of statistics behind that that might prove that it is from a career standpoint. But I wrote down my act and I was like, dude, and the current jokes you're telling you have to fat jokes, that's not enough to stay healthy. That's a ridiculous thing to do to jeopardize your life, you know, for your career.

Kannaboom (34:44): There are comics who did that, I mean John Candy and some of the other Saturday Night Live guys were definitely, that was part of their identity.

Dan LaMorte (34:50): For sure. And, and what, what stood out to me was that, you know, I am, when I started losing weight, I was 23. That is a very formative age. You know, neuroplasticity of the brain, they say for it's about 28 years old is when the brain really gets into this mode where it's harder to make changes. So I told myself, you know, if I could get into this, this mode at 23, 25 to 25, lose this weight, become this runner. There's a good chance I could make this, you know, how my brain functions throughout life. So this was my last ditch effort, you know? Cause there were a lot of talks, a lot of family members like you should get the weight loss surgery. I had talked about it. I researched it. There was one called Obalon that I was really thinking of doing where it's a series of swallowing three different balloons that take up space in your stomach. And then I had this moment where I was like, dude, you, you were a college athlete. You're telling me you got to swallow balloons to lose weight. I was like, that sounds so unhealthy swallowing balloons. I was like, just do it yourself.

Kannaboom (35:51): Yeah, that sounds terrible.

Dan LaMorte (35:54): And it scared me. It scared me that I was like, how am I at a point in my life where people are telling me maybe swallowing balloons is a healthy decision for me.

Kannaboom (36:03): Yeah. Well I'm glad you didn't take that route.

Dan LaMorte (36:06): It'd be like running with balloons in your stomach. Maybe the float a bit more

Kannaboom (36:11): It can't be comfortable to have friggin balloons in your stomach.

Dan LaMorte (36:13): No, maybe they could pump it up and you'll float above the track. Like the Tarahumara

Kannaboom (36:19): I've been a copywriter all my career. And I was thinking about this before we got on, as a copywriter it's creative work. And you know, sometimes you're in a meeting with people and they're like, you're the writer. Can you come up with something? And I always like, not right now. That's not how it works. I got to go back and just work this through my brain and put something together and then I'll show you. And over the course of my career, I started as a journalist and it was always the who, what, where, when, why, and you would construct a story around that. And when I got into marketing, it's kind of the same thing. What do you want the audience to know? And how do you want them to feel, what do you want them to do? So you would construct messages around that. And then search engine optimization came along and Google kind of changed the game. If you thought somebody wanted to fix a dent in their car and you thought they were going to Google, how to fix a dent, maybe that's not what they were putting in. Maybe it was something absolutely different. A lot of times it was, this wondering from a comic standpoint, is there anything like that where you could type into Google? Is this funny or not?

Dan LaMorte (37:17): Thank you. I wish, I mean, that's the interesting thing about comedy, is that not only is it, so, I mean, it's so personal to each person on what they find funny, but even what you find funny today might not be what you found funny yesterday, depending on what happened to you in that day. So I feel like your audience is so personal and so all over the spectrum of personalities that you just have to throw stuff out there. So like I would say a comedian's optimization is the first, if you're a headliner and you're doing a 60 minutes set, those first 10 minutes are like your optimization. You'll throw a few different jokes out there, whether it be observational, dirty, clean self-deprecating, or throw out a few different styles and you'll see what that crowd is reacting to most. And then moving forward in those last 50 minutes, you'll try to cater the set, not cater, but you'll, you'll try to work more of the material that you see that that crowd saw was working. Or then there's the flip side where you can just power through and try to get them to laugh at what you're going to say anywhere.

Kannaboom (38:25): It's kind of like getting high, I mean, set and setting always matter. So you're, you're operating on many different levels, right? You're reading the room. Maybe you have some prepared material. Maybe you're just working off the crowd. There's a lot of different ways to tackle this, I imagine.

Dan LaMorte (38:39): Oh for sure. And truthfully as a performer, it's very hard to not bring your day into this set as well. So, you know, if I'm happy on stage that set my go better than if I had if I had a really bad day and I bring that day on stage, that set may look a lot different than the night before when I had a great day. So it's like comedy, really, it live comedy to me is one of those things that just needs to be seen live because you're not ever going to get that moment. Again, it is a moment in time and it's a moment that only exists with you in that audience. There's a certain chemistry and a certain ebb and flow to the, to the just the air of the room that I don't think could ever be replicated. Like you have comedy albums where we'll put a set of hours, like on like, I'll take a set of Zany's in Chicago and then put that onto a CD. But even that won't give you what it was like to be in that moment, whether it'd be in a comedy club or like now outdoor shows in a park, we are all part of something. Now, you know, you are part of this moment and it's hard to ever replicate that, I think, right. Or even know what you're looking for. Like you walk into a room, you're sometimes the only way to know what that crowd is going to laugh at is to just watch the comics before you see how those comics did. And even that sometimes means nothing because there are times when great comics go up and do bad, you know, four comics go up who are pretty good and not do good. And then the fifth will go up. And for some reason he'll do great. And he might just be as good as the other people. You know, comedy is one of these things that I've learned. There is no rhyme or reason.

Kannaboom (40:08): It's a real art. I mean, you have to read the crowd, you have to bring everything that's going on into it. And as you said, be there in the moment.

Dan LaMorte (40:17): Yeah. And that's why I think I've found so much solace in trail running because it brings me back. Comedy is another one of the skills where you very much, not only have to be in the moment and in the present, but your mind also has to be 10 steps ahead. You know, you have to think, all right, I'm going from this joke, where am I going after this? Whereas trail running and like, all right, I see that stone coming up. I see that stone coming up and see that route coming up. So it's like, you're in the moment with this current step, but then you're also 10 steps ahead thinking, where's it going to go?

Kannaboom (40:48): Then you gotta trust your instincts. And I had a running coach who just said, just keep your eyes level. And that you'll magically adjust to the trail.

Dan LaMorte (40:57): Is that weird? How that sometimes works. There's a mountain in New Jersey called Mount Tammany that I would never recommend anyone to run, but there are some times that I'll go there and run it, you know, or I'll say endurance hike up and then run down. And I've almost taken some really gnarly spills there, but it's like your feet for the most part, even when you're not looking, have this magical way to kind of just feel the terrain out,

Kannaboom (41:18): You're perceiving it. And you don't even know it.

Dan LaMorte (41:20): I'm saying that as a guy who currently has a swollen and cut up knee from falling on a tree stump on a trail, I run regularly.

Kannaboom (41:27): I just hit the pavement a couple of weeks ago. I was just, I changed my shoes that day or the Nike's instead of the Hokas, I don't know what happened, but I just went down hard and wrenched my wrist and it took me a couple weeks to recover. That's the other thing, when you age, it's just, everything takes longer. Yeah.

Dan LaMorte (41:44): Yeah. And that's kind of, and it comes, it's kinda like comedy now, you just have to be comfortable with the slip ups. You know, if a joke doesn't work, you can't just abandon the set. And like, when I was two miles into a run, the other day of a half marathon run and I fall on a tree stump and my legs bleed and I'm like, all right, now I just readjust the game plan. You know, I still do the half marathon, but I changed the pace up. I make sure the gait's still there and it's just kind of, I like things in life that could just be taken in the moment and you process it and move forward. And that to me is comedy. You know, comedy is moving forward and hopefully funny forward and funny, I try to say,

Kannaboom (42:20): Do you have any comic heroes?

Dan LaMorte (42:22): Oh, plenty. I mean, whether it's dead people like Mitch Hedberg or Greg Giraldo, one of the first comics really helped me out in my career with Kathleen Madigan, if we're going to go alive comedians. I would say though, for me, Greg Giraldo was, and Mitch Hedberg were the two most influential, I mean, draw though as this guy who was on roasts, but he was also a brilliant comedian. I mean, he was a Harvard educated lawyer. What, or maybe, I don't know, he went to one of the Ivy leagues for it. We went to two Ivy League schools like Columbia and Harvard. He was just, and he had this way of making very smart materials, seem like it was coming from an average Joe, where he would have, you know, regular, old, dumb, New York Italians laughing at geopolitical bits. And you're like, this guy's a genius. They don't even realize what they're laughing at. And then Hedberg was just next level for me. Cause I love short jokes. And he was the ultimate one-liner kind of stoner comedy.

Kannaboom (43:21): Yeah. Yeah. He was very unique, wasn't he?

Dan LaMorte (43:23): So unique and you know, both those guys tragically died young and that was something that I always started, you know, when I was lucky to have a lot of success at a young age that kind of tampered out because I got too much of it too quickly, which was fine with me. But there was a period where everyone would joke, 'Oh, you're, you're, you're going to be famous, but you're going to die by the time you're 30.' And I really believe that to be true. Cause I was so out of shape and so unhealthy that I was like, all right, this is just the path I'm on. And all the guys I looked up to are comics who died young. So I was like, this seems fine with me. And then eventually it snapped in my head where I was like, well, if this is the truth that you're living, then you might actually put yourself in that path. And I don't think you want to be dead at 30.

Kannaboom (44:02): Right. A lot of guys in their twenties have to, your adolescents can go out for a long time if you're not careful.

Dan LaMorte (44:08): Yeah. And, and it could become too accepted. You know, there are some behaviors. I mean, if you don't surround yourself with the people who are going to call you on your bullshit, you could stay in the same hole for quite some time. And I was lucky enough to get to a point in my life where I decided to start surrounding myself with the people who are being a little more critical than not. Cause I knew they were the ones who were going to ultimately help me towards my goal.

Kannaboom (44:30): A lot of the rock and roll people who died at the age of 27 and you know, were probably surrounded by people who said yes, yes, yes, yes. Whatever you want.

Dan LaMorte (44:38): Yeah. I mean, who's going to tell Hendrix not to take the drugs, you know? No.

Kannaboom (44:42): Tell me about the success you had. Were you a teenager still when you, when you were successful or how did you get started?

Dan LaMorte (44:49): So when it became clear that my arm really wasn't, I mean, I guess I, it was in the rehab process. I started and I went to an open mic and I kinda, I did really bad. And then I went to an open mic in the city and it went well. And then I started barking, which means you would stand in front of a venue and try to get people in. And if you've got a certain amount of people in you'd get stage time. So like I, I made this very weird plan that I was always told at a young age, you had to do like five open mikes a day to be successful in New York city. And I was a stubborn, you know, bratty kid. So I was like, I'm going to do no open mikes. And that was the route I took for a while. You know? So it was this interesting thing where I became this kid who started barking and getting staged. I'm in clubs and it got me better. And next thing you know, I'm getting club spots a year in, at two years in, I became the fastest comics ever to get past that. The legendary Comedy Cellar is the biggest club in New York, probably the biggest comedy club in the U.S. It's unheard of for anyone who's two years in to get past that. But I got the audition and worked there for a year. And after a year they kind of saw through my bullshit and stopped using me. I wasn't good enough at the time, you know, there's, I was good for a two-year comic, but I was no Comedy Cellar comic. And that was one of the first downfalls. I mean, I would never say I had a ton of success at a few TV appearances. You know, it was a show called Gotham Comedy Live. I did a few times. I did Getting Doug with High, which was a good show. I was on a, I was a panelist on a Fox news show called Red Eye. So like there were some things popping up. But the problem was, well, what happened with me was comedy. So that was the big change for me. Cause when they stopped using me, it was a very big moment for me. Cause I had, I put so much of my investment into comedy that happiness revolved around how standup is going, because stand up is one of these jobs where you really need to just go all in or nothing. So you, everything in your life starts to revolve around it and you're happy when standup's going well. So for a year in my life, I was, you know, blissful. Sure I was way overweight, but I was at the Cellar. So it was all fine. So when the Celler went away, I was in this weird moment where I was like, all right, now you are a 23-year old comic who's 350 pounds and you're not in the Cellar anymore. So are you going to find your own happiness because comedy isn't giving you the happiness anymore?

Kannaboom (47:03): That's a moment. Yeah.

Dan LaMorte (47:04): That was the most successful though. The Comedy Cellar for me, like if I had to trace back the biggest success in my life, it would be, that's how important that club is for comedy is like getting in that triumphs, any TV, appearance, any article written, any tour that I put together, you know, I had done 30 city tours that I put together myself getting into this Celler was still the big one for me. And for a while it upset me that I wasn't in there anymore. But the lessons I learned and the people I got to meet you, I got to eat dinner with Chris Rock, Louis CK, become friends with Tracy Morgan. Like it was a, I got to hang out with Chappelle, go to a Dave Chappelle after party, which is, I saw things there that I don't think I'll ever see anywhere else. You know, I, I got to live that life for a while and I got to see that, that wasn't actually what was going to bring me happiness. I mean, I still do hope to be a, you know, a famous comic. Why not, who doesn't want that, but I'm. I'm very content and how I've found ways to be happy outside of standup. Now,

Kannaboom (47:59): Were you like the class clown, were you the funny kid all the time?

Dan LaMorte (48:03): 100%. I wouldn't say I was popular. There's a big difference between class clown and popular, but I definitely was always the person who liked it. Wasn't rare that when the first day of school came the way the teacher alphabetized the desks, that LaMorte was the one that would be front and center in the front of the room. It was never rare for teachers to know who I was going into their class because they would talk to the teacher from the year before. I remember one time I went to Catholic high school and St. John Vianney, if you got enough detentions, you were put on the no dress down list. We would get like one dress down day a month. You could wear whatever you wanted. If you got too many detentions, you had to wear a uniform year round. So I was on that list very quickly. And it was Christmas time and they gave us one big dress down day before that, but I had to wear my uniform. So I was like, you know what, I'm not going to do that. So I came into school dressed as an elf and not just like an elf. I had booty shorts on elf shoes. I had an entire elf costume decked out with bells. I had a hat, I had rosy cheeks and I forgot that we had mass that day. And mass was held in the, every, every student faculty member would come into the gymnasium. The priest would come in and here I am having to go walk up and get the body and blood of Christ, decked out in jingle bells. And you could hear a pin drop and you just hear the rattling of my bells, the hallway up. And that was, that was a common thing for, you know, I was always in trouble and always in the Dean's office, making jokes that I shouldn't have. And it was I was, I loved comedy and I, when I played baseball, all my friends would listen to music before games to pump themselves up. I was listening to Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Mitch Hedberg. I was listening to stand up before big games because that was what I loved. And weirdly I never thought I would do it until the day that I did it. You know, I just decided one week to do it.

Kannaboom (49:57): Your parents were supportive?

Dan LaMorte (49:58): Yeah, my dad drove me to my first open mic. He came with me to my first year of mics and I was so nervous.

Kannaboom (50:03): How much is it a confidence game standing up in front of a bunch of strangers and trying to convince them

Dan LaMorte (50:10): To do it, it's a confidence game for sure. I mean to get up there, it's a confidence game, but I think more than anything, comedy is timing. I mean, I know comics who've been doing it for 10 years. You just haven't been able to figure out their cadence. And they're not that funny because of that, you know, timing is everything you need the ability to kind of hold audience in the hand, in the palm of your hand and know when you're going to hit them with the punchline, know when you're going to hit them with a tag that gets extra laps on the punchline. Like it's so much of it is just timing. I think for real, yeah, confidence plays a part, but I mean, I know some comics have to get drunk. So up there, that was never me for one reason or another talking to the audience, it was never something that made me incredibly nervous. I get more nervous now, weirdly. So I guess, cause the blind confidence goes away. Like when I was 19 or 20, I would say 20 to 20 to 21 was my most confident years in comedy. Now it's more realistic. You know, I am more nervous to go on stage now, but it's because I've lived through more. I've been through more comedy. I know what can happen up there.

Kannaboom (51:11): Is a cannabis part of your show?

Dan LaMorte (51:13): I mean, I, I definitely perform stoned. It's not rare for me. Cause you know, most of my life I am a, I do a good amount of weed jokes, but I also do try to make it known that I'm not a stoner comedian. I'm a comedian who happens to be stoned. I love joking about weed, but I don't like the stigma that comes with being like a stoner comic. For some reason, you're looked at as not being able to be as creative or as funny, it's like a hacky kind of thing. But then I'd make the argument. I'm like, Mitch Hedberg was a stoner comic. You know that guy, those are clear stoned observations. Those are clearly stoned thoughts. I bought an ant farm. Those motherfuckers ain't growing shit. I mean, that's such a stoned observation. That's a classic Hedberg joke.

Kannaboom (51:55): Definitely gives you a perspective in a lot of times it's absurd and that's okay.

Dan LaMorte (52:00): Yeah. I find so much humor in the absurd because it just gives me a short, absurd one-liner that's goofy. I love that stuff. Yeah.

Kannaboom (52:09): You have so much material. I mean, there's so many absurdities today that we're knee deep, neck deep in them. I mean, you don't have to look too hard.

Dan LaMorte (52:16): Oh, that's for sure.

Kannaboom (52:18): What haven't we covered Dan, that we should?

Dan LaMorte (52:19): You tell me, we talked a lot about running. Is that the funny thing? When you get into running, you could just talk about it a lot.

Kannaboom (52:27): It's boring to some people who aren't runners, but I, yeah, I could talk about it all day. I mean, there's so many elements to it, you know, short distance, long distance, your you're training, your diet, your recovery, all that stuff.

Dan LaMorte (52:39): Anyone who hasn't tried stoned running, so many people reach out to me. They're like, 'Do you actually run stoned?' I'm like, yeah. They're like, then they say, 'There's no way I could do it.' Then I'm like, 'Well, have you ever tried it?' No. Then how could you say that? I mean, sure. There's some downsides. The amount of times I've thought my headphones are bees in my ear a lot, a lot of times I've swatted my headphones out of my ear. But outside of that, although I had a buddy one time tell me, he's like, 'If I ever ran stoned, I think I'd forget how to run. I don't think I'd remember.' And I was like, 'That's not true.' And then after he told me that the next day I was like, how do you run?

Kannaboom (53:12): You're definitely going to listen to your body a little more. Like you said, those first few miles, you're kind of loosening up and okay. Is my, you know, are my quads tight or is my foot strike, right? Things are going to occur to you that might escape attention otherwise.

Dan LaMorte (53:26): And the only downside is when you, when you're stoned to start the run, I've found that sometimes I'll go out a little too quick, some, a little too, I'm not feeling the pain as much because I'm now stoned. So I'll go out and my splits will be a little too fast to start. And then I've had to do a better job of that lately to kind of just tell myself that the stoned portion of the run is the enjoying part don't push during it. Just kind of take it all in, find the stride, get the pace down and then push it that, you know, four, four miles gets about four. And before I push.

Kannaboom (53:56): I can see how that could happen. Are you an indica guy or a sativa guy or does it matter?

Dan LaMorte (54:01): There was a point where I would have told you sativa, but at this point I've done so many long distance runs on heavy indicas that I'm like, I don't think it matters to me anymore. I do. Although last week I had something called papaya. It was a strain called papaya and I've never had runs the way I've run on papaya. They were incredible. It was in, it was a, it was a hybrid and it really was bringing me some great runs this week. I'm on some weird, indica heavy one that, that hasn't been as fun to run on, but I still get it done anyway. I don't see a huge difference in the two for me anymore.

Kannaboom (54:38): Sometimes there's a strain that just gives you energy. It's like energy dope.

Dan LaMorte (54:43): Gorilla Glue is that for me. Which I know it's not that for a lot of people, but I would have some really solid runs on GG.

Kannaboom (54:50): You have a podcast yourself now, don't you?

Dan LaMorte (54:52): I had one before Corona. So I was doing a podcast that was actually inside a deli. It was called In the Aisle. We would sit on milk crates in the middle of an aisle of an open deli and interview people. You know, people ranging from comedians to, you know, UFC fighters to Bobby Bacala from the Sopranos. You know, we, we had a range of guests, but because of COVID that, you know, you can't really sit on the floor of a deli and open your mouth anymore. So I'm currently, you know, my big issue was I feel like we're in a time where podcasts really need a hook or like a point of view. And I was struggling to find one thinking, moving forward, what could I do? And then someone was like, well, you are the hook. They're like, you have a following, you've lost 170 pounds. You're becoming an ultra runner. You're a standup comedian. They're like, your story is the hook. Just people want to listen to you just start a podcast. Again. I used to have a solo podcast where it was just me and people liked it. So I'm starting this one. We're in the process of starting it's called On the Way with Dan LaMorte, it's going to be interviews with people that I want to talk to, that I've met on the way of life. You know, whether it's comedians or athletes or family members, it doesn't matter. Just people I want to have conversations with. And if it gets listens, it gets listens. If it doesn't, it doesn't, it's going to be a project that I've gotten really into, the Rich Roll Podcast. It, wasn't a big Rich Roll guy until recently and just has conversations with people he finds interesting. And there's something really cool to that to me that I want to do.

Kannaboom (56:21): Yeah. I've listened to Conan somewhat Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Yeah. He's always kind of absurd himself, but yeah. What the heck is, it's a good time to do something like that.

Dan LaMorte (56:33): Yeah. And I want it to be, you know, comedy, but also not, you know, I want to have a platform or if I want to just talk to another runner, I want to put that out there and you know, just, I don't want to feel like I'm always having to be funny. And In the Deli, there was this idea that we were a comedy podcast. So we were pushing for jokes. I just want honest conversation if humor pops up, which it will, because I'm going to try to make it funny. It'll be great. But I also just want the ability to kinda share what I've learned. You know, I've learned so much and have been able to, to correct a lot of the wrongs of my life. And if I could pass that on and I've already seen some people taking interest in the story, so why not give them a little bit more if I can help, you know, even one person, each episode that that's worth it to me.

Kannaboom (57:13): So you're sitting on the floor and the deli, is it totally spontaneous if somebody walks by, are they part of the show?

Dan LaMorte (57:20): We would. I mean, we would put up signs that would tell them like, Hey, you're going to be on camera if you do come down. Cause we would in those as well. But there were many episodes that we would leave in interactions where people were coming down the aisle to get something and were completely thrown off by us. It was a lot of fun. You know, I do miss it. I miss the customer interactions more than anything, but for me to sit down, I had a cohost and we would have a guest or two. It was a lot for me cause I, I have issues on conversation. I myself am a bit on the spectrum as for autism spectrum disorder formerly known as Asperger's. So it's very tough for me to be in like a conversation with three or four people. And it's hard for me to focus on one person. So I need to go back to a podcast or I'm the host and there's one guest because it's the only way my brain will allow me to focus on the conversation.

Kannaboom (58:10): Yeah. Manage it a little. Exactly. I think our listeners are gonna get some value from hearing about your story and, and the way cannabis has helped you along the way. And continues to,

Dan LaMorte (58:23): Yeah, this was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed the conversation. Yeah.

Kannaboom (58:26): Well, thanks for making time. Good luck cleaning up from the hurricane and all that stuff too.

Dan LaMorte (58:31): Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. It's, as Smash Mouth famously said, the years start coming and they don't stop coming.

Kannaboom (58:39): Hopefully we can, we can have you back on again sometime I'm, I'm curious about how the ultra is going to go and I'll be curious.

Dan LaMorte (58:46): Yeah. I'm curious about how I'm going to smoke during it, how I'm going to plan my smoke breaks. You know, if the race directors will get mad, if I spark up a joint.

Kannaboom (58:53): You might want to bring some gummies. I mean you know,

Dan LaMorte (58:56): And I think the race will be a gummy day. That's why I think September is going to be a big month of testing out edible running to see what works,.

Kannaboom (59:02): Those goo packets. I would use those towards the end of a marathon.

Dan LaMorte (59:07): I'm a big energy bean guy. I love the Jelly Belly Energy Beans.

Kannaboom (59:12): There you go.

New Speaker (59:12): And Honey Stinger, I'm a big Honey Stinger guy.

Kannaboom (59:15): Get some of those with some THC in them and you might, might be on your way.

Dan LaMorte (59:19): Oh my God, if they made edible Honey Stingers I think me and you just discovered something. We gotta, we gotta contact Honey Stinger for their California office.

Kannaboom (59:27): For sure. Thank you so much.

New Speaker (59:29): Have a good one. Thanks for having me.

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